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'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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https://archive.is/p6ufq

Weirdly, archive.is is timing out for me whereas archive.vn is working: https://archive.vn/p6ufq

Thanks. This sounds a LOT like the bullshit Anker does with their (now largely abandoned) 3d printers. They forked a slicer and locked people out of the devices unless you’re using theirs.

Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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So Bambu's argument hinges on "impersonation" claim of Jarczak's modified client using the same user agent string? If a user compiles official BambuStudio from source, does BambuLabs then also claim their non-bit-identical client is also impersonating the "real" BambuStudio? Or are they abusing user agents strings as authentication mechanism? If they don't consider it abuse, but rather legitimate use of agent strings…

I mean if you do enter a legal case, they cannot just laugh away and be like "oh DoctorOetker such a silly case". They will have to take it seriously and follow all legal procedures. I don't know why people think law is some commonsense topic when it's highly technical and domain-based.

I'm not asking what the courts do, I'm asking what they should do?

Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the weak precedent here is Apple vs Palm: Palm devices pretended to be iPods so that users could use iTunes to copy music to them. Apple threatened legal action and Palm backed down.

The ipods weren’t open source, however

and the designs being printed are most often the user's own, or else legitimately acquired through model repositories...

Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

#24
Me and a buddy, victor teisller, hacked the most popular 3D printer a few years ago (flashforge) to turn it into a major fire hazard through reverse engineering the firmware update remotely. Changed the max temp of the extruder to the temp of the Sun lol. These things are a fascinating security target because they're an easy place to turn abstract digital hacking into physical repersussions that can literally murder.

https://www.theregister.com/security/2020/04/13/how-to-make-...

Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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I'm not in the community, so I'm taking this article at face value. If I read correctly, he made software that possibly exploited a security gap, they asked him to remove it, then he demanded free hardware. They said no, and the conversation turned sour.

Why is everyone mad at them? I'm not blaming either side, but it sounds like a rather typical failed negotiation.

Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

#26

I'm not in the community, so I'm taking this article at face value. If I read correctly, he made software that possibly exploited a security gap, they asked him to remove it, then he demanded free hardware. They said no, and the conversation turned sour. Why is everyone mad at them? I'm not blaming either side, but it sounds like a rather typical failed negotiation.

> that possibly exploited a security gap

It set a HTTP user agent string...

Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

#27
I have a problem:

I'm in the market for a new 3D printer. My old Ultimaker 2 is still going strong, but it's from a different generation and doesn't fit my needs anymore. Looking purely at features, I really want a Bambu Lab X2D. However I hate what that company is doing, don't want to give them my money and don't want to lock myself into their increasingly locked down ecosystem.

Features I want:

- 2 nozzles (print parts with a different support material or a combination of solid and TPU)

- make simple 2-color prints without manual intervention (to add labels on parts, only a few layers require two colors)

- hassle-free filament storage (protected from dust and moisture, multiple spools ready to print at all times)

- a choice of different nozzles (e.g. 0.8 mm) which can be swapped easily

- able to print ABS reliably (or another material that is more heat resistant than PLA), the Ultimaker 2 with its open chamber is not good at this (parts lift off and warp)

- hassle-free operation (no tinkering)

Don't need:

- cloud stuff (I print everything locally, my own models)

What should I buy?

Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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Serious question, I have a Bambulab printer now. What is a good next printer option? Prusa is way too expensive without a decent AMS alternative. Flashforge is doing some sketchy stuff with their maker site + AI. Is Creality or QIDI the best next options?

I’ve owned half a dozen printers (Prusa, Bambu, and Creality) and help manage a hackerspace with a print farm of mixed brands, and I won’t personally touch any brand other than Prusa now for actually getting prints done. There’s plenty of other printers that can do the same or better and/or cheaper if you want “building and managing the printer” to be half the hobby, which is a totally fair thing and can be lots of f…

I don't know about other brands or even models, but I can attest that the Bambu A1 Mini "just works".

I precisely wanted to avoid another hobby, of which I have too many already. 3D printing as a hobby doesn't appeal to me, I just wanted something that solved the problem and was relatively cheap. The A1 is this for me, it's as close as a fire and forget appliance as I could find.

Not saying there aren't better alternatives, just that it simply works for me.

Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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I have a problem: I'm in the market for a new 3D printer. My old Ultimaker 2 is still going strong, but it's from a different generation and doesn't fit my needs anymore. Looking purely at features, I really want a Bambu Lab X2D. However I hate what that company is doing, don't want to give them my money and don't want to lock myself into their increasingly locked down ecosystem. Features I want: - 2 nozzles (print p…

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