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Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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Post by mcmoor »

Rohansi wrote: post #80
MattCruikshank wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How is this different from just loading your world in a server and having your friends join? Because player location, inventory, actions, are all load on the server. That's why servers have player limits. > BitTorrent isn't going to work. You and I are talking about different things. I'm talking about serving up the raw blocks alone. And yes, I know, Minecraft servers don't support static file serving, or streaming…

> You and I are talking about different things. I'm talking about serving up the raw blocks alone. So shareable cloud saves? Who covers the cost for them?

Whoever host the server? The difference is instead of only serving 50 people before lowering fps, instead now it can serve much more.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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Post by mastermage »

pixl97 wrote: post #44
accrual wrote: post #33

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Yes, the anarchy and inability to truly protect anything is part of the appeal of 2b2t. There was an interesting base project wherein the true coordinates were only known to the top leaders. All other builders connected through a custom client that offset the coordinates to hide the true location. If anyone became untrusted, they were simply blocked from the client and could not expose the coordinates. There was care…

If I remember one of these stories right, a screenshot of netherrite blocks on the floor. A member of the community calculated the block placement in the chunk and used this to determine where it was on the actual map.

i am amazed at the amount of unemployed you have to be to do things like this.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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Post by mastermage »

chadgpt3 wrote: post #69
lunar_rover wrote: post #54

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> I'm so continuously confused why Minecraft doesn't have a show-off mode where a team of people can build something, and then someone else can spectate it, without causing undue server load. You'll be confused by Minecraft in general then. Mojang's core team seems like they never changed a bit in all these years despite becoming a billion dollar studio, for better or for worse. Last time I played it, mods can still…

They actually added a lot of indirection to the code soon after being acquired. Instead of an array containing the number 1 (meaning dirt) it now contains a pointer to an object with a string name and a hashmap of properties. Instead of drawing a cube in code, it's loaded from an interpreted DSL - all possible calls to that DSL are fixated at load time. The chunk generation process creates and executes a graph of mic…

the id change was actualy much needed for the modding community. As there was only 65 536 possible IDs which in some modpacks was not enough especially accounting microblocks. And also you had massive ID conflicts that you had to manually set in configs every time. Because there was no separation of ids per mod.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

#84

Post by ShinyLeftPad »

arboles wrote: post #72
jdw64 wrote: post #63

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I've already downloaded Hermitcraft. Thank you, I'll check out Pixlriffs. I'm asking because I have some things I'm curious about regarding Minecraft. Have a great day, and I wish you the best with everything you do.

Care to share what you are curious about?

I would bet training AI

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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Post by tardedmeme »

charcircuit wrote: post #73
chadgpt3 wrote: post #71

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that's because Microsoft said it would blacklist 2b2t (making the client refuse to join it, or the auth server refuse to auth players for it - a punishment normally reserved for pay-to-win servers but the bar has been lowering) if it didn't ban swear words in chat

Considering no other server has to ban swear words (ignoring Bedrock partnered servers), I do not believe that happened. The server administration does not care so they are just trying to censor as much as they can automatically so they don't have to manually spend time looking at the server. There are other servers who are small enough to continue to have actually anarchy and who are willing to require having altern…

It's true: https://www.resetera.com/threads/mojang-requires-minecraft-a...

Here's another server saying the same thing happened to them: https://minecraftonline.com/wiki/Mojang_Blacklist_Timeline

Here's a mainstream source, though it doesn't have any new information: https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/gaming/15-years-late...

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

#86

Post by chadgpt3 »

mastermage wrote: post #83
chadgpt3 wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They actually added a lot of indirection to the code soon after being acquired. Instead of an array containing the number 1 (meaning dirt) it now contains a pointer to an object with a string name and a hashmap of properties. Instead of drawing a cube in code, it's loaded from an interpreted DSL - all possible calls to that DSL are fixated at load time. The chunk generation process creates and executes a graph of mic…

the id change was actualy much needed for the modding community. As there was only 65 536 possible IDs which in some modpacks was not enough especially accounting microblocks. And also you had massive ID conflicts that you had to manually set in configs every time. Because there was no separation of ids per mod.

In 1.7 there was automatic ID allocation. The limit could have been expanded to 4 bytes.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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Post by charcircuit »

tardedmeme wrote: post #85
charcircuit wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering no other server has to ban swear words (ignoring Bedrock partnered servers), I do not believe that happened. The server administration does not care so they are just trying to censor as much as they can automatically so they don't have to manually spend time looking at the server. There are other servers who are small enough to continue to have actually anarchy and who are willing to require having altern…

It's true: https://www.resetera.com/threads/mojang-requires-minecraft-a... Here's another server saying the same thing happened to them: https://minecraftonline.com/wiki/Mojang_Blacklist_Timeline Here's a mainstream source, though it doesn't have any new information: https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/gaming/15-years-late...

None of those say that 2b2t had to remove swearing.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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Post by Rohansi »

mcmoor wrote: post #81
Rohansi wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You and I are talking about different things. I'm talking about serving up the raw blocks alone. So shareable cloud saves? Who covers the cost for them?

Whoever host the server? The difference is instead of only serving 50 people before lowering fps, instead now it can serve much more.

> Whoever host the server?

Many are self hosted.

> The difference is instead of only serving 50 people before lowering fps, instead now it can serve much more.

2b2t has 920 players online right now. That's quite a lot for a single instance, IMO.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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Post by charcircuit »

Phelinofist wrote: post #35
DaSHacka wrote: post #34

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home to the dastardly popbob, minecraft's most notorious troll

And the server admin, Hausemaster

And the person who formally ran and was at the top of the Minecraft pvp tier list while blatantly cheating, DangerMario.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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Post by zimpenfish »

arboles wrote: post #50

> Providing a Torrent for this amount of data is not easy whatsoever. We are currently working on creating a Torrent that includes all data, but this may take a few weeks. What do they mean by this? I understand that it would be a download on the order of 26TiB (if we extrapolate from the recent 200k^2 download, which is a ~1TiB torrent[1]). If bandwidth costs are the issue (certainly it's an issue) they could thrott…

https://github.com/2b2tplace/1m_release has it at 24TB for overworldx2+end+nether
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