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Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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With severe weaponized autism, the help of several people involved, thousands of dollars spent, and countless hours wasted, we present you the largest world download project ever Never underestimate the power of severe weaponized autism!

I have a theory that the modern world would not exist without it.

I don't think this is even sarcastic.

There are some theories that Autism was more useful in the wilderness. More adapted to the old world, not the modern world.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a theory that the modern world would not exist without it.

>Yeah and we'd be better off. The modern world is quantifiably worse than the world we had even 10 years ago. That includes everything in software development and computer science. Rather than killing this comment, how about we discuss quantification? I actually feel this way too but do not talk about it too much and sort of boil it down to a combination of advancing in age + yelling at clouds and "Stop putting compu…

-> "monetization of nerds by capital to squeeze profit "

Note. In case this is read incorrectly. For the most part the nerds are not profiting. The nerds are sitting hunched over their desk being fed coffee from a feeding tube, to keep them happy while the owners make money.

And. To be more sad, these days you can't even get free coffee. Being fed free coffee and donuts, while others profit from us, is considered the golden age of computing.

We loved our cozy cells, not so much these more uncomfortable ones.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a theory that the modern world would not exist without it.

I don't think this is even sarcastic. There are some theories that Autism was more useful in the wilderness. More adapted to the old world, not the modern world.

I think of it as a different algorithm to crawl the problem space of the real world.

In a general sense, humanity needs to be generalist (especially in the past) to accomplish all the things you need to do to stay alive. Having all 20 members of your tribe geek out and stare at a problem for 48 hours straight means a bear sneaks up and eats you. But having that one oddball (hey me) fall into a rabbit hole of observation and mental computation can lead the group out of a local maxima into a new paradigm of doing things.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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It's easy enough for a server which wants to provide some sort of "easy viewing cool builds" functionality to do it multiple ways such that something native would only be a minor convenience and many would still just use the more customized methods anyways. 2b2t wants to provide a certain anarchy server experience which would not align with that kind of functionality, spending quite a bit of effort in the opposite di…

Yes, the anarchy and inability to truly protect anything is part of the appeal of 2b2t. There was an interesting base project wherein the true coordinates were only known to the top leaders. All other builders connected through a custom client that offset the coordinates to hide the true location. If anyone became untrusted, they were simply blocked from the client and could not expose the coordinates. There was care…

If I remember one of these stories right, a screenshot of netherrite blocks on the floor. A member of the community calculated the block placement in the chunk and used this to determine where it was on the actual map.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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2B2T really has an extremely interesting and long history, and some of the most interesting exploits/security vulnerabilities found just for it, for example https://2b2t.miraheze.org/wiki/Nocom where the attackers had a blunt server DoS and through it influenced the server owner to report it to PaperMC, and the fix for the DoS gave them ability to track other players just as they had hoped. > In July 2018, 0x22 and B…

People have also tried to create merge requests into my plugin to reintroduce the issue into 2B2T.

https://github.com/GrimAnticheat/Grim/pull/1131

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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post #39
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a theory that the modern world would not exist without it.

>Yeah and we'd be better off. The modern world is quantifiably worse than the world we had even 10 years ago. That includes everything in software development and computer science. Rather than killing this comment, how about we discuss quantification? I actually feel this way too but do not talk about it too much and sort of boil it down to a combination of advancing in age + yelling at clouds and "Stop putting compu…

That's a redefinition of the term - while there is some merit to your interpretation, it's an already commonly used term that means something else. It'd seem to me that the modern tech is significantly less "autistic" than it used to be in the prior decades and will only continue to move in this direction; and aside of that, I'm pretty sure Netcob's "modern" was meant to mean current thousands rather than tens of years.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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post #39
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a theory that the modern world would not exist without it.

>Yeah and we'd be better off. The modern world is quantifiably worse than the world we had even 10 years ago. That includes everything in software development and computer science. Rather than killing this comment, how about we discuss quantification? I actually feel this way too but do not talk about it too much and sort of boil it down to a combination of advancing in age + yelling at clouds and "Stop putting compu…

> Can we reliably quantify that "weaponized autism", i.e. the aggressive monetization of nerds by capital to squeeze profit out of every possible corner of society

That's not what that term means.

Also that comment wasn't killed directly. That user is banned. Interestingly that was his first (attempted) post since 2022.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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I'm so continuously confused why Minecraft doesn't have a show-off mode where a team of people can build something, and then someone else can spectate it, without causing undue server load. I should be able to give you a URL to some location, and when you click it, it opens up Minecraft, streams the blocks, and you're viewing it. minecraft://server/loc?w=0&x=0&y=0&z=0 w is the overworld, nether, end, etc. And if you…

It's not in the base game, but there is a plugin that generates a map of your server and hosts it, called Bluemap [0]. It has an example. [1] I always toss it on the servers I host. [0]: https://modrinth.com/mod/bluemap [1]: https://bluecolored.de/bluemap/

A +1 for Bluemap. Plus because it's actually tied into the server[0], all your wacky mods have their blocks rendered correctly instead of confusing whatever map generator you're trying to use.

[0] Plus you can get live player positions, update markers in real time, etc.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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2B2T really has an extremely interesting and long history, and some of the most interesting exploits/security vulnerabilities found just for it, for example https://2b2t.miraheze.org/wiki/Nocom where the attackers had a blunt server DoS and through it influenced the server owner to report it to PaperMC, and the fix for the DoS gave them ability to track other players just as they had hoped. > In July 2018, 0x22 and B…

and then once they had the primitive, they used a compressed sensing algorithm or HMM of some kind to create a live player map. truly APT-level tradecraft.

Re: 1024000^2 Blocks, 2B2T Minecraft Server World Download Project, and Discoveries

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> Providing a Torrent for this amount of data is not easy whatsoever. We are currently working on creating a Torrent that includes all data, but this may take a few weeks.

What do they mean by this? I understand that it would be a download on the order of 26TiB (if we extrapolate from the recent 200k^2 download, which is a ~1TiB torrent[1]). If bandwidth costs are the issue (certainly it's an issue) they could throttle their seeding speed and let the swarm seed it. That's what bittorrent is for.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/2b2t_Uncensored/comments/1tefffd/in...

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