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Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

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Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

#81
Searching for "commercial display" will get you some dumb TVs. They tend to cost 2x, but you get what you pay for.

We just gave away our 55" Hisense to our friend. I hope she doesn't think it means we hate her now. ;)

(Side note: not having a TV in the living space allowed us to freely design it to be a living space.)

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

#83

If someone was offering you a sweet but in exchange they punched you in the face, you'd probably question whether the sweet was really worth it. Unless, of course, you're addicted to the sweets. Time to kick the addiction. Seek out ways to spend your time that are good for you and/or others.

It's not sweets and it's not an addiction, not everything on TV is for mindless consumption. The viewer is not who's at fault here. The right mindset is not "accept their terms or give up", it's "make your voice heard and try to make the manufacturers change their practices".

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

#84

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A Shield is the better choice because you can install apps that Apple would never approve of.

But the Nvidia Shield has (or had?) ads from Google, right? I recall there was news coverage and some uproar when this happened a few years ago.

The default Google launcher is a disgusting mess. But since it is an Android, you do not have to use it and can use one of the many ad free ones. I use Projectivy

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#85
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Pro tip for devices that refuse to simply remove working WiFi credentials ( cough Samsung), is to connect them to a different “dummy” WiFi and then simply turn that off. I’ve yet to see a device that caches more than one set of credentials. But I suppose it’s only a matter of time.

Cat and mouse. Then we shall only ever connect to a throwaway wifi ssid created for the sole purpose of setting up that TV and deleted promptly afterwards. Samsung will then use NFC / QuickShare transient hotspot to helpfully sync all useful info from your Samsung phone nearby. Then we block that IP address or MAC ID from router side. Then smart TVs will switch to open mesh networks hosted by unsuspecting ISP custome…

TV's last a long time. Get one with a bypass today and you can be set for decades.

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

#86
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I have a rooted LG WebOS TV. It's really nice. I can ssh into it. It's on a dedicated VLAN which has all LG domains and IP firewalled off. It can connect to Youtube, using a version of the Youtube app with integrated adblocker and sponsorblock. It's absolute superb.

Do you have any recommended links for such a setup? I don’t connect my TV to the network and use it with an Apple TV. But I’m interested to know more on this.

Sure, first you check if your TV is rootable: https://cani.rootmy.tv/

If not, you can try and find one on Ebay or local classifieds that is. That's the hardest part.

Then you setup a VLAN (I use OpenWRT, which has great support for this) and some firewall rules that forbid all traffic that isn't port 80 or 443. Then you create a dnsmasq blacklist for all the LG domains (good list is [1]).

Then you install this: https://github.com/webosbrew/youtube-webos

Enjoy Youtube on a large screen under your control without ads, and without annoying sponsors.

[1] https://raw.githubusercontent.com/hagezi/dns-blocklists/main...

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

#87
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This is outrageous and we need to stand up against it. You're merely avoiding the danger of uber-enshittification of hardware (now once software is enshittified enough), but this will crawl further and further. Meanwhile rating companies are lowering ratings of firms that DO NOT have 'subscription model' in their products, that's why we're intended to pay for enabling heating in car seats from now on.

My car has heated and ventilated seats. These do not require a subscription.

My car’s seats are warmed by my butt. They’re very happy and comfortable and I didn’t have to pay a dime.

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

#88

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fewer competitors every year...Sony gave up as well :/

It's ridiculous that going to a Target/Bestbuy/etc you cannot find any non-smart TVs generally. I have had several older models of non-smart tvs that suddenly stop working after a few years. It's disgusting

It's either because the non-ad-driven tvs cost more, resulting in too few sales to sustain (because no lifetime revenue from data sales) or the lifetime revenue from data sales is so profitable that companies take the risk on being undercut by a market entrant that will sell dumb tvs.

My guess is that the vast majority of people will trade data for a cheaper price point every time (my wife is certainly one of these people), so the market just can't support the volume of sales necessary to make the price point of dumb tvs competitive.

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

#89

I'll keep not connecting my TV to the Internet and keep using a Fire TV stick for now.

Fire Stick/Fire TV is a pretty dreadful experience as it is. Video ads on the home screen, but at least you can currently install custom apps. No way to replace the home screen.

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

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Cat and mouse. Then we shall only ever connect to a throwaway wifi ssid created for the sole purpose of setting up that TV and deleted promptly afterwards. Samsung will then use NFC / QuickShare transient hotspot to helpfully sync all useful info from your Samsung phone nearby. Then we block that IP address or MAC ID from router side. Then smart TVs will switch to open mesh networks hosted by unsuspecting ISP custome…

TV's last a long time. Get one with a bypass today and you can be set for decades.

I have had my Sharp 65" TV since 2012. It works great, has multiple HDMI ports and a USB port, but I am worried that one day I will need a new TV.
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