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Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

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Re: Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

#81
I think I’m old enough to have experienced this cycle so many times with so many businesses that I just feel kind of silly to hate on Apple or Microsoft or whoever. They’re all just maximizing profits as designed.

I think people find it easier to scowl at the villain du jour than to dig into the deep complex issue of when capitalism doesn’t work, when the government isn’t doing enough, and what we could do about it… or the feeling that we really can’t do much.

Re: Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

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Boycott Apple services. It’s the only way they will listen.

Yea, that won't do much. How about convict Apple of monopoly practices.

Tim Cook hanging out with Trump at the White House a few days ago - not a good sign this will happen anytime soon.

Re: Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

#83
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post #67

Boycott Apple services. It’s the only way they will listen.

Yea, that won't do much. How about convict Apple of monopoly practices.

I really don’t understand this attitude. Of course it will. If enough people do it. This is how corporations change not through protest and we’re certainly not going to get any antimonopoly anything going on soon.

They make literally about 40% of their profit off of Apple services. Do you really think if people on mass stopped buying Apple TV, Apple Pay, Apple Music, an iCloud, they wouldn’t care?

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/01/2025-marked-a-record-...

I mean the minute people started talking a general worker strike in Minneapolis all of a sudden all these companies freaked our and wrote a letter protesting about IVE’s behavior in Minneapolis.

Re: Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

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A nickel for each iMessage…

Honestly… if we implemented $0.01 charge on every message, post and etc. the world would become an amazing place.

I think that spammers would happily pay that rate.

Re: Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

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What are you going to do about it? Use Android?

Me? I'm working to help people get elected to Congress to help regulate this mess.

Why would you want to give the government such power? That always amazes me... when there is an issue, people jump on "let's vote for government to regulate this", but then they are surprised when a new government gets to power and uses this new regulation/capability against you.

Re: Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

#86

This means Apple is literally going to take nearly 3x in fees from Patreon's customers than Patreon is taking from their own customers. My understanding is that the reason the number 30% is so magical is a historical anomaly. When software was physically distributed back in the day, 15% of the MSRP was reserved for the distributor and another 15% for the retailer. When these digital marketplaces were set up, the comp…

Had no idea about the history and the 15%/15% split but when the topic comes up I just remember how good the 30% seemed back in, what, 2008? It made perfect sense that this shiny new iOS platform would take 30% of a cheap app to ensure that it matches the high quality of iOS. These were little productivity apps and games at the time. This however - I just don't understand what the need is for an app at all for Patreo…

>What's next - 30% of my pizza price goes to Apple because I ordered it on my phone?

I'm pretty sure Apple has discussed things exactly like this.

Their upper management really does tend to think that 30% of any monetary transaction on an Apple platform belongs to them. Too bad our government is too busy being ran by the billionaires to do anything about these abuses from billionaires.

Re: Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

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It's because of the hardware. For mobile Apple is competitive, for desktop applications they don't even show up on most benchmarks next to AMD/Nvidia hardware. For example, you have to scroll beneath last-gen laptop GPUs before you can find any Apple hardware on the OpenCL charts: https://browser.geekbench.com/opencl-benchmarks

That's also because of software. Apple deprecated OpenCL in MacOS eight years ago. In productivity software with solid Metal implementations, like Blender, the M4 Max is on par with the top of Nvidia's (mobile) 5xxx line, except with much more VRAM.

No software fix exists, Apple's GPUs are architecturally limited to raster efficiency (and now, matmul ops). It's frankly bewildering that a raster-optimized SOC struggles to decisively outperform a tensor-optimized CUDA system in 2026.

Re: Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

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post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A nickel for each iMessage…

Honestly… if we implemented $0.01 charge on every message, post and etc. the world would become an amazing place.

I mean...that's how SMS used to work? Or still works?

Once upon a time it was expensive to send messages and now it's cheap.

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