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Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

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Re: Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

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Post by wat10000 »

scyzoryk_xyz wrote: post #60
legitster wrote: post #3

This means Apple is literally going to take nearly 3x in fees from Patreon's customers than Patreon is taking from their own customers. My understanding is that the reason the number 30% is so magical is a historical anomaly. When software was physically distributed back in the day, 15% of the MSRP was reserved for the distributor and another 15% for the retailer. When these digital marketplaces were set up, the comp…

Had no idea about the history and the 15%/15% split but when the topic comes up I just remember how good the 30% seemed back in, what, 2008? It made perfect sense that this shiny new iOS platform would take 30% of a cheap app to ensure that it matches the high quality of iOS. These were little productivity apps and games at the time. This however - I just don't understand what the need is for an app at all for Patreo…

I was working for a small software company at the time and we thought it was outrageous. We were selling our software online direct through our own web site and the cost was far lower. A few percent for credit card processing fees, and the server/bandwidth cost was inconsequential.

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Post by mort96 »

thisislife2 wrote: post #70
mort96 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These days, Google has foolproof ways for an app to query and check if it's running on a "genuine" (read: Google-controlled, locked down) system. I'm not switching to Sailfish.

Who am I to tell you how to spend your money? The point is, there are alternative unlike what you claimed. There is currently no foolproof way yet for Google to block apps. Also, it doesn't matter, in the long run - once the adoption of Sailfish OS picks up and it reaches critical mass, developers will switch to building apps for it. The "digital sovereignty movement" also helps. Russia has already bought and forked…

I would like nothing more than for a third viable competitor to show up.

I don't think you calling me an idiot will make that happen faster, is the point.

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Post by brianwawok »

justapassenger wrote: post #68

I miss the old school monopolies, where MS was a bad guy because they dared to include browser. And yes, I do legalese details of that are much more complex. But it just makes no common sense.

Like try to break the internet and the java programming language? The former being most successful for years

Re: Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

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Post by pixl97 »

shimman wrote: post #73
hiprob wrote: post #19

What are you going to do about it? Use Android?

Me? I'm working to help people get elected to Congress to help regulate this mess.

At the end of the day Apple is doing their damnedest to force the requirement to support other app stores. They want their cake, and they want to eat it too. Unfortunately they are going to make an epic fuckton of money before they get told to stop.

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Post by ezfe »

iknowstuff wrote: post #38
dankwizard wrote: post #35

Just do what we all do to dodge this, have the Account management and purchasing abilities sit inside an embedded browser window that opens up from a button push in the app. Yes it adds a little barrier but with Apple Pay it is a very small barrier and the juice is worth the squeeze.

Don’t they forbid this? Spotify couldn’t even link to their website in the US lol

Spotify does link to their website to sign up in the US...

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Post by ezfe »

kccqzy wrote: post #46
colechristensen wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was a result of the Apple vs Epic case, external payment processors avoiding the fee were enabled in the US in May 2025.

If it was enabled, why can Apple still demand 30% cut here? Couldn’t Patreon just switch to external payment processors citing the Epic case?

Because Patreon doesn't want to do that. They could.

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Post by tokioyoyo »

Noaidi wrote: post #65
m132 wrote: post #43

Patiently waiting for a mandatory 30% fee on every transaction made with iOS banking software. Maybe that'll put a definitive stop to forcing mobile "apps" with jailbreak detection on customers and have banks think twice before crippling the functionality of their websites. Please Apple, make this happen.

A nickel for each iMessage…

Honestly… if we implemented $0.01 charge on every message, post and etc. the world would become an amazing place.
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