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Intel Core Ultra Series 3 Debut as First Built on Intel 18A

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Re: Intel Core Ultra Series 3 Debut as First Built on Intel 18A

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But like.....what for example. As a normal windows PC user, what kind of software can I run that will benefit from that NPU at all?

They're going to find a way to accelerate the Windows start menu with it.

God I hope so

Re: Intel Core Ultra Series 3 Debut as First Built on Intel 18A

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> Today at CES, Intel unveiled Intel Core Ultra Series 3 processors, the first AI PC platform built on Intel 18A process technology that was designed and manufactured in the United States. Powering over 200 designs from leading, global partners, Series 3 will be the most broadly adopted and globally available AI PC platform Intel has ever delivered. What in the world is this disaster of an opening paragraph? From the…

It's a disaster along with the title. There isn't a lot of clear information.

Re: Intel Core Ultra Series 3 Debut as First Built on Intel 18A

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AI PC has been in the buzz for more than 2 years now (despite itself being a near useless concept), and intel has like 75% marketshare for laptop. Both of those are well with in norm for an intel marketing piece. It’s not really meant for consumer. Who would even visit newsroom.intel.com?

Apparently it’s been a thing for a while: What is an AI PC? ('Look, Ma! No Cloud!') An AI PC has a CPU, a GPU and an NPU, each with specific AI acceleration capabilities. An NPU, or neural processing unit, is a specialized accelerator that handles artificial intelligence (AI) and machine learning (ML) tasks right on your PC instead of sending data to be processed in the cloud. https://newsroom.intel.com/artificial-in…

It'd be interesting to see some market survey data showing the number of AI laptops sold & the number of users that actively use the acceleration capabilities for any task, even once.

Re: Intel Core Ultra Series 3 Debut as First Built on Intel 18A

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“With Series 3, we are laser focused on improving power efficiency, adding more CPU performance, a bigger GPU in a class of its own, more AI compute and app compatibility you can count on with x86.” – Jim Johnson, Senior Vice President and General Manager, Client Computing Group, Intel A laser focus on five things is either business nonsense or optics nonsense. Who was this written for?

Somewhat ironically if they were laser focused using infared lasers, wouldn't that imply the company was not very specific at all? Infared is something like 700 nm, which would be huge in terms of transistors

Re: Intel Core Ultra Series 3 Debut as First Built on Intel 18A

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>>Within the same product family and generation, I expect 9 is better than 7 Ah the good old Dell laptop engineering, where the i9 is better on paper, but in reality it throttles within 5 seconds of starting any significant load and the cpu nerfs itself below even i5 performance. Classic Dell move.

Apple had the same problem before they launched the M1. Unless your workloads are extremely bursty the i9 MacBook is almost guaranteed to be slower than the base i7.

Even thier ultra efficent silicon didn't fully solve this; a 16" M4 Pro often outperforms a 14" M4 Max stuck throttling.

Re: Intel Core Ultra Series 3 Debut as First Built on Intel 18A

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If they are going to be the most broadly adopted AI platform where does that leave nvidia? What is the AI PC platform? The experience on windows with windows 11 for just the basic UI of the start menu leaves a lot to be desired, is copilot adoption on windows that popular and does it take advantage of this AI PC platform? Ryzen AI 400 mobile CPU chips are also releasing soon (though RocM is still blah I think) Nvidia…

Firstly,

>Series 3 will be the most broadly adopted and globally available AI PC platform Intel has ever delivered.

The true competitor is Ryzen AI, Nvidia doesn't produce these integrated CPU/GPU/AI products in the PC segment at all.

Re: Intel Core Ultra Series 3 Debut as First Built on Intel 18A

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently it’s been a thing for a while: What is an AI PC? ('Look, Ma! No Cloud!') An AI PC has a CPU, a GPU and an NPU, each with specific AI acceleration capabilities. An NPU, or neural processing unit, is a specialized accelerator that handles artificial intelligence (AI) and machine learning (ML) tasks right on your PC instead of sending data to be processed in the cloud. https://newsroom.intel.com/artificial-in…

It'd be interesting to see some market survey data showing the number of AI laptops sold & the number of users that actively use the acceleration capabilities for any task, even once.

I'm not sure I've ever heard of a single task that comes built into the system and uses the NPU.

Re: Intel Core Ultra Series 3 Debut as First Built on Intel 18A

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Clock speed? Hyperthreading? AVX512? APX?

There's a link to product brief PDF from the bottom of the press release. Page 9 and 10 have product tables. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/content-details/8713...

P-Core Max Frequency 5.1 on the highest end, and the lowest at 4.4.

There's no hyperthreading: https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/processors/now-youve-got-so...

Dunno about AVX and APX. They're not making it easy to find, so... probably not.

Re: Intel Core Ultra Series 3 Debut as First Built on Intel 18A

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> Today at CES, Intel unveiled Intel Core Ultra Series 3 processors, the first AI PC platform built on Intel 18A process technology that was designed and manufactured in the United States. Powering over 200 designs from leading, global partners, Series 3 will be the most broadly adopted and globally available AI PC platform Intel has ever delivered. What in the world is this disaster of an opening paragraph? From the…

It means they did cost cutting on Lunar Lake and are excited to sell a lot of them at similar or higher prices.
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