Intel Core Ultra Series 3 Debut as First Built on Intel 18A
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Intel Core Ultra Series 3 Debut as First Built on Intel 18A
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#2> Today at CES, Intel unveiled Intel Core Ultra Series 3 processors, the first AI PC platform built on Intel 18A process technology that was designed and manufactured in the United States. Powering over 200 designs from leading, global partners, Series 3 will be the most broadly adopted and globally available AI PC platform Intel has ever delivered.
What in the world is this disaster of an opening paragraph? From the weird "AI PC platform" (not sure what that is) to the "will be the most broadly adopted and globally available AI PC platform" (is that a promise? a prediction? a threat?).
And you just gotta love the processor names "Intel Core Ultra Series 3 Mobile X9/X7"
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#3If they are going to be the most broadly adopted AI platform where does that leave nvidia?
What is the AI PC platform? The experience on windows with windows 11 for just the basic UI of the start menu leaves a lot to be desired, is copilot adoption on windows that popular and does it take advantage of this AI PC platform?
Ryzen AI 400 mobile CPU chips are also releasing soon (though RocM is still blah I think)
Nvidia is still playing in the AI space despite all the noise of others on their AI offerings - and despite intel hype, Nividias margins at least recently have been incredible (ie, people still using them) so their platform hasn't yet been killed by intel's "most widely adoptoped" AI platform offering
Re: Intel Core Ultra Series 3 Debut as First Built on Intel 18A
#4> Today at CES, Intel unveiled Intel Core Ultra Series 3 processors, the first AI PC platform built on Intel 18A process technology that was designed and manufactured in the United States. Powering over 200 designs from leading, global partners, Series 3 will be the most broadly adopted and globally available AI PC platform Intel has ever delivered. What in the world is this disaster of an opening paragraph? From the…
Intel marketing isn’t the best but I am struggling to understand what issue you’re taking with this.
It’s an AI PC platform. It can do AI. It has an NPU and integrated GPU. That’s pretty straightforward. Competitors include Apple silicon and AMD Ryzen AI.
They’re predicting it’ll sell well, and they have a huge distribution network with a large number of partner products launching. Basically they’re saying every laptop and similar device manufacturer out there is going to stuff these chips in their systems. I think they just have some well-placed confidence in the laptop segment, because it’s supposed to combine the strong efficiency of the 200 series with the kind of strong performance that can keep up with or exceed competition from AMD’s current laptop product lineup.
Their naming sucks but nobody’s really a saint on that.
Re: Intel Core Ultra Series 3 Debut as First Built on Intel 18A
#5> Today at CES, Intel unveiled Intel Core Ultra Series 3 processors, the first AI PC platform built on Intel 18A process technology that was designed and manufactured in the United States. Powering over 200 designs from leading, global partners, Series 3 will be the most broadly adopted and globally available AI PC platform Intel has ever delivered. What in the world is this disaster of an opening paragraph? From the…
I think I have given up on chip naming. I honestly can't tell anymore there are so many modifiers on the names these days. I assume 9 is better than 7 right? Right?
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#6I assume its still x86-64?
What actually makes it an AI platform? Some tight integration of an intel ARC GPU, similar to the Apple M series processors?
They claim 2-5x performance for soem AI workloads. But aren't they still limited by memory? The same limitation as always in consumer hardware?
I don't think it matters much if you're limited by a nvidia gpu with ~max 16gb or some new intel processor with similar memory.
Nice to have more options though. Kinda wish the intel arc gpu would be developed into an alternative for self hosted LLMs. 70b models can be quite good but still difficult / slow to use self-hosted.
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#7I will wait for the actual reviews from users. But I lost faith in Intel chips.
I was in CES2024 and saw snapdragon X elite chip running a local LLM (llama I believe). How did it turn out? Users cannot use that laptop except for running an LLM. They had no plans for translation layer like Apple Rosetta. Intel would be different for sure in that regard, but I just don't think that it will fly against Ryzen AI chips or Apple silicon.
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#8Any speculation on what the equivalent TSMC node is for Intel 18A?
Re: Intel Core Ultra Series 3 Debut as First Built on Intel 18A
#9I assume its still x86-64? What actually makes it an AI platform? Some tight integration of an intel ARC GPU, similar to the Apple M series processors? They claim 2-5x performance for soem AI workloads. But aren't they still limited by memory? The same limitation as always in consumer hardware? I don't think it matters much if you're limited by a nvidia gpu with ~max 16gb or some new intel processor with similar memo…
These processors have NPU (Neural Processing Unit) which is supposed to accelerate some small local neural networks. Nvidia RTX GPUs have much more powerful NPUs, so it's more about laptops without discrete GPU.
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#10this doesnt have integrated ram like lunar lake right ?