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Re: Foreign tech workers are avoiding travel to the US

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Post by hollerith »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #55
hollerith wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh? The US South is wealthier than any country on earth that is not a tax haven excepting only the US as a whole and perhaps Norway with its oil wealth. (The US South was considerably poorer than the rest of the US, but the advent of air conditioning about 75 years ago eventually ended that.) I'm going to guess that it also has more college graduates per capita than any country except the US as a whole. Also, US sta…

> US states and US regions have almost no control over how diverse they are I have an expanding blacklist of states I won't live in because of their broken policies. If you don't support freedom and liberty, you're not a welcome place for civic-minded Americans who can think past their nose. The states very much can control their appeal to outsiders but the demagogues that get elected don't care. There is a collectiv…

OK, but the relevance of your comment to the comment I was replying to is unclear to me unless you are an immigrant into the US.

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Post by sirmike_ »

yongjik wrote: post #64
kevinh wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong with having a hyphen in your name?

Trump emboldened a lot of racists. You don't need to make any logical sense, just show off your true racist inner self to the world. I guess having a hyphen in your name is woke now.

You seem to overly generalize. Nothing I said was racist. But you sir need your eyes checked. And uncivil attitude.

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Post by esalman »

nightshift1 wrote: post #43

Browsing r/illinois and r/EyesOnIce for a few minutes will cure anyone from ever wanting to step foot in the US.

I'm really interested to see what happens during the world cup. Won't be surprised if somehow it may end up even bigger of a scandal than Qatar'22. Even if we set immigration and politics aside, heat it going to be an even bigger issue than everyone is anticipating.

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Post by metadope »

therobots927 wrote: post #26

Welcome to the US. Please hand over your phone and social media logins so we can screen you for wrongthink. If you break an obscure law ICE may or may not disappear you to a black site. Enjoy your stay.

For some reason I am picturing Arnold Schwarzenegger in Total Recall, awakening to this unintentionally-funny dystopia as he tries to traverse port security.

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Post by orloffm »

I've travelled to the US (Boston, and later drove to Washington) in September. Even me being Russian, why would I worry? I have a visa (which I've waited for more than a year), I visit colleagues in the company and have a place to stay. What's going to happen to me? The worst that can happen is some talk at the border, but there wasn't any.

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Post by cmxch »

nightshift1 wrote: post #43

Browsing r/illinois and r/EyesOnIce for a few minutes will cure anyone from ever wanting to step foot in the US.

Those also provide a nice and easy intelligence collection resource for those refining enforcement and identifying potential obstacles.

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Post by cmxch »

therobots927 wrote: post #26

Welcome to the US. Please hand over your phone and social media logins so we can screen you for wrongthink. If you break an obscure law ICE may or may not disappear you to a black site. Enjoy your stay.

That level of scrutiny was fine for COVID regulation enforcement. What makes immigration different?

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Post by quietsegfault »

hollerith wrote: post #35
quietsegfault wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don’t compare a US region to sovereign countries that don’t share federal transfers, monetary policy, or capital markets. The correct comparison might be the South vs other US regions. In that comparison the South has persistently lower incomes, higher poverty, worse health outcomes, and weaker mobility. And while immigration is federal, states clearly influence who stays through jobs, education, civil rights enf…

The Federal government has famously been involved in how well states enforce civil rights starting in the 1950s. Also, the Southern US can't be doing that badly at guarding civil rights if a non-white immigrant can write, >As a brown guy I'd prefer my odds in the reddest county in Mississippi than anywhere in Asia (other than my own ethnostate). https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31227980

That isn’t the gotcha you think it is. Saying “China is safer than Mississippi” depends entirely on defining safety as low visible street crime and ignoring state power.

China is safer only for people who are compliant, apolitical, unorganized, and unremarkable. For a disadvantaged person, the main risk is not random crime. In China there is no independent court, no reliable legal recourse, no protected media scrutiny, and no guaranteed exit. When something goes wrong, it cannot be challenged.

Mississippi has real and serious problems, but the state is constrained by federal courts, national law, public reporting, and internal mobility. Those constraints materially change the risk profile when abuse occurs.

Low street crime under an unconstrained government is not “safety.” It is conditional calm. Treating that as “safer” than a place with enforceable limits on state power misunderstands what actually puts disadvantaged people at risk.

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Post by therobots927 »

cmxch wrote: post #88
therobots927 wrote: post #26

Welcome to the US. Please hand over your phone and social media logins so we can screen you for wrongthink. If you break an obscure law ICE may or may not disappear you to a black site. Enjoy your stay.

That level of scrutiny was fine for COVID regulation enforcement. What makes immigration different?

Yeah remember when people were being arrested and sent to camps for not wearing a mask? Are you stupid or do you just think I am?
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