Horay for the death of flash and IE.
IE10 won't run Flash unless website is whitelisted by Microsoft
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Re: IE10 won't run Flash unless website is whitelisted by Microsoft
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If you want to talk about problems, let's talk about plugins themselves. They're horrible and should never have been created. Hell, even they were a response to horrible websites which browsers had to deal with. Anything short of proper browser development would of course necessitate having plugins for your browser.
>They're horrible and should never have been created. Do you have a better way to add functionality to a closed source browser?
That's the problem right there. Do you really need something more than an html/php/js/css web browser?!
Re: IE10 won't run Flash unless website is whitelisted by Microsoft
#83The keyword is lockdown. I am all for giving hate to flash. It is commonly found vulnerable. It produce slow websites which eats memory and cpu. It has poor history in non-windows systems. But in all, I have serious doubt this call was made for any reason beyond pushing users to their app-store. games? online experience? chat? By forbidding flash, companies are bit more forced to turn to apps with their products. Sur…
Sorry but I just can't follow the logic here. The Flash whitelist is only for the formerly-called-Metro immersive browser that will primarily be used on touch-based tablets. It does not affect desktop IE10. Many Flash apps were designed for big screens and mouse interaction where pointer precision is great. Now you're throwing them onto a screen that's smaller and using a fat finger to emulate a pointer when the Flas…
How is having an empty rectangle a better experience than a maybe broken flash app ?
Using your argument they should also whitelist websites because some of them have bad interfaces or inappropriate content. For example some drop-down menus only open on hover and so won't work with touch interfaces.
Re: IE10 won't run Flash unless website is whitelisted by Microsoft
#84I wish that Google doesn't whitelist YouTube with MS so everyone migrates to Chrome, I want IE10 dead.
Re: IE10 won't run Flash unless website is whitelisted by Microsoft
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
>They're horrible and should never have been created. Do you have a better way to add functionality to a closed source browser?
That's the problem right there. Do you really need something more than an html/php/js/css web browser?!
Oh yes! Thats why flash has 99% penetration, because nearly everyone needs it.
Re: IE10 won't run Flash unless website is whitelisted by Microsoft
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Read the guidelines http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/jj193557%28v=vs.8... > We place sites with Flash content on the CV list if doing so delivers the best user experience in Internet Explorer 10 with those sites. For example, how responsive is the content to touch? Does it work well with the onscreen keyboard, or affect battery life? Do visual prompts comply with the Windows Store app user experience guidel…
I would indeed be surprised if they had written "Any commercial competing products to anything in our app-store will also be rejected". It would just surprise me more that removing a large portion of the competition did not add into the decision.
It's got nothing to do with competition. Silverlight is also not allowed in the Modern IE10.
Re: IE10 won't run Flash unless website is whitelisted by Microsoft
#87Interesting. Flash is not just video and ads. Flex is a powerful and rich application stack on Flash platform. There are numerous sites out there using Flex.
Let's get real, very few websites use Flex, it's kind of a dead technology.
Re: IE10 won't run Flash unless website is whitelisted by Microsoft
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
>They're horrible and should never have been created. Do you have a better way to add functionality to a closed source browser?
That's the problem right there. Do you really need something more than an html/php/js/css web browser?!
You're absolutely right. Who needs rich, interactive media? It's not like Flash powers some of the top sites on the entire freaking internet.
Before you say "HTML5", not there yet, and didn't exist in the period back when Flash became popular.
Please stop being so dogmatic, this is software development, not religion.
Re: IE10 won't run Flash unless website is whitelisted by Microsoft
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
> most of the people use it as a tool to download Chrome and Firefox. Not true. A lot of people still use it as in use . I was alarmingly surprised to find the number of users using IE as their main browser in my office, other than mandatory use to access company portal. And oh, my company's entire mail/issue-tracking suite works on this piece of art .
Chartbeat can speak to this a bit: http://chartbeat.com/labs/totaltotal/ You'll need a big monitor, as this was a quick hack and doesn't function very well on small screens, but you can see the number of people using IE across all of the sites our JS is loaded on in real-time.
Good source.
Yes I can see and it shows IE at number 2 spot consistently.
>>doesn't function very well on small screens
Works just fine with "CTRL -"
Re: IE10 won't run Flash unless website is whitelisted by Microsoft
#90The keyword is lockdown. I am all for giving hate to flash. It is commonly found vulnerable. It produce slow websites which eats memory and cpu. It has poor history in non-windows systems. But in all, I have serious doubt this call was made for any reason beyond pushing users to their app-store. games? online experience? chat? By forbidding flash, companies are bit more forced to turn to apps with their products. Sur…
"Lockdown" is not the correct term. 1. Flash isn't prohibited on Windows RT devices. This is distinctly different from Apple's approach with iOS, and Google has removed Flash from Android. [1] 2. Existing Flash websites will run on Windows RT devices. Windows RT will ship with the desktop version of IE10. [2] Microsoft has made explicit what we all know. There are some websites that use Flash appropriately and in a w…
Where does your linked article say that Google removed Flash from Android? It seems Adobe removed Flash from the Play store. How is that the same?