I love Mitchell’s X post awhile back: “What the monetization strategy of Ghostty?” “My monetization strategy is that my bank account has 10 digits in it…” lol, epic.
Ha. That counts the cents, though, I assume? I didn't think Hashicorp was that big, right?
Ghostty is now non-profit
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#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://twitter.com/mitchellh/status/1993728538344906978 - "Ghostty on macOS now has search [...] GTK to follow soon" - November 26th 2025
But only in the the tip (nightly) build. I'm somewhat tempted to switch to them for this.
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#83Is anyone opposed or at least of two minds concerning what could be described as the bureaucratization of FOSS? Or has this always been a thing. But it feels like a common—and celebrated—outcome for a lot of projects.
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#84This is great work and good news, however if you want to guarantee a long-term public benefit, use copyleft without a CLA! A more well-funded company can fork this and make the new work proprietary, meaning you did all that initial development work for them for free. Apple and Microsoft are the two most likely parties to do so here. This isn't a theoretical risk.
Using a copyleft license can add friction that reduces the amount of value your software can create in the world. I'd honestly rather Apple and Microsoft ripped off my work if it meant that my work provided more utility to a larger number of people.
That "friction" is by design. It prevents someone else from screwing over the users.
The people that oppose copyleft are those it was specifically design to protect against.
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#85What does he mean, isn't this what OpenAI just did, I'm confused guys
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#86> I believe infrastructure of this kind should be stewarded by a mission-driven, non-commercial entity that prioritizes public benefit over private profit. One of my pet peeves is people trotting out “I believe” statements. (Usually) I care much more about the evidence that backs the belief than the belief. Putting aside my cantankerousness, I am glad Michael believes in setting up good incentives for the organizatio…
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#87I mean, after the OpenAI debacle, surely this type of assurance doesn't hold much weight anymore? (Though Ghostty is ofc very unlikely to pull shenanigans)
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
i type exit
Same. I didn't know Ctrl-D did anything.
Software that takes text input should interpret that as the end of the input.
Shells decide that end of input means it's time to exit. Terminals usually decide that if the shell exits, there's nothing else to do and so close the window.
macOS Terminal.app instead prints "Process exited", which I can't quite fathom the value of. I guess it's marginally less confusing than making the window disappear. :)
(Note though -- I can't find it in Terminal.app settings right now, but there must be a way to change the behaviour to close the window instead. Mine is configured that way, but it's not the default)
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#89> A non-profit structure provides enforceable assurances: the mission cannot be quietly changed, funds cannot be diverted to private benefit, and the project cannot be sold off or repurposed for commercial gain. What does he mean, isn't this what OpenAI just did, I'm confused guys
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#90I wasn't aware of Hack Club before and wow, their fiscal sponsorship program is enormous: https://hackclub.com/fiscal-sponsorship/directory/ - looks like they cover more than 2,500 organizations! The Python Software Foundation acts as a fiscal sponsor for a much smaller set of orgs (20 listed on https://www.python.org/psf/fiscal-sponsorees/ ) and it keeps our accounting team pretty busy just looking after those. Hack…
Hack Club's been a fiscal sponsor for about 7 years now (since 2018), and it's evolved quite a bit since the early days. I run engineering & product for the fiscal sponsorship program there and would be happy to chat/share any tips!
oh, and while it's on my mind, the codebase was open-sourced earlier this year (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43519802), and we just launched a mobile app yesterday! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46130402