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Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

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Re: Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

#82
post #39

Oh, so this is an actual recall and not just a software update.

> Oh, so this is an actual recall and not just a software update. In an era of software-defined vehicles, the difference is one of convenience, not impact/consequence. Not really worth pointing out, unless you're a service department telling owners how to plan their week.

That’s nonsensical, IMO. Software updates should not be considered recalls at all. Unless it’s a critical safety issue that makes the vehicle unusable.

Re: Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

#83
post #8

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I wonder how they compare to the rest of the auto manufacturers, in this regard.

> I wonder how they compare to the rest of the auto manufacturers, in this regard. Most recalls in 2024: Chrysler (72), Ford (67), BMW (36), GM (34), Hyundai (25), Mercedes-Benz (28) Least: Tesla (16), Mazda (6), Rivian (8), Nissan (18), Toyota (16), Porsche (13) Another way to look at it is number of people impacted, which changes the "leaderboard". In order of most people to least: Tesla, Chrysler, Ford, Honda, GM,…

rather than the number people impacted, perhaps the most interesting would be the percentage/ratio of people impacted among the ones who got the car?

Re: Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

#84

For comparison, the level of seriousness compared to an ICE vehicle: this would be like if the fuel tank stopped working.

A more apt comparison would be a fuel pump, since fuel tanks don't really stop working short of springing a leak which brings its own problems.

Fuel pump failure is certainly not an uncommon thing, although in my limited experience, they usually become a bit intermittent and the car sputters for awhile, rather than losing all motive power at once (but that's totally possible too).

I am guessing when drive power is lost on an EV it would just coast (hopefully). Since there's effectively no connected battery pack to regen to, and the electric motors won't physically lock up.

Re: Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

#85

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There’s a physical mechanical open mechanism for doors.

Curious how it worked, I found https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-A7A60DC... > At the bottom of the rear door pocket, there is a slot in front of the release cover. Slide your finger into the slot and lift to remove the cover. Pull the mechanical release cable forward. I wonder how people are supposed to be able to find that when in an emergency sitting in the backseat of someone else's car.

The front doors have a way easier and more obvious way than the rear doors. In fact, for the front doors it's so obvious that most passengers think it's the normal way to open the door. The reason the rear doors have it much more hidden is because child safety locks are an important safety feature, and they'd be useless if small children could easily bypass them.

Re: Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

#86

Oh, so this is an actual recall and not just a software update.

Interesting. How many physical repair facilities does Tesla have? I can see this creating quite a backlog.

Well, this is a relatively small recall in automotive terms, so certainly enough to handle this.

Re: Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

#87

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Only on the cybertruck, the Y and 3 are still mostly 12v

I wonder why all electric cars aren’t designed from the start to use 48v.

What would be the exact benefit for 48V?

Virtually all electronics need a step down (buck) converters as they run at lower voltages 5, 3.3, 1.8. 12V > 3.3- 1V would a single step. 48V ones would likely require an intermediate step. The only exception would be running some power systems where it'd require less current.

Re: Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

#88
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s a physical mechanical open mechanism for doors.

> There’s a hidden physical mechanical open mechanism for doors. FTFY

It's only hidden for the back doors so that it doesn't render the child safety lock useless. It's in the most obvious spot possible for the front doors.

Re: Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

#89
post #31

Is this the kind of battery power loss that prevents you from opening the doors and can trap you in a burning/sinking Tesla?

This question is misleading for the same reason "have you stopped beating your wife?" is. Even if a Tesla loses all power, you can still open the doors with a mechanical handle and escape. Tesla's engineers aren't stupid.

Re: Tesla Recalls Almost 13,000 EVs over Risk of Battery Power Loss

#90

For comparison, the level of seriousness compared to an ICE vehicle: this would be like if the fuel tank stopped working.

Who else thought this post referred to border patrol vehicles? I try to avoid political news but am apparently failing at some level.

Given that it is a car post Internal Combustion Engine would be my first guess when seeing ICE but I can see where one might think of the other as well.
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