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Re: DOOMscrolling: The Game

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Post by lmwnshn »

Tabular-Iceberg wrote: post #57
withinboredom wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people using these sheets have no idea what you’re talking about. They use multiple sheets to layer the dimensions and understand pivot tables perfectly.

Are people who understand relational databases and people who understand pivot tables disjoint sets? I can look at someone’s finished pivot table and reproduce it from the data through other means, but any explanation of what a pivot table actually is and does reads like pure gibberish to me.

Check out the full version of Towards Scalable Dataframe Systems from VLDB 2020 [0]. They propose an algebra for dataframes and section 4.4's example succinctly describes the pivot operator.

[0] https://arxiv.org/abs/2001.00888

Re: DOOMscrolling: The Game

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Post by abustamam »

tgv wrote: post #68
danielheath wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We already had to beat "I made a spreadsheet", which continues to be pretty damn hard even for large teams of experienced engineers - ask your finance team sometime how many custom spreadsheets they use regularly. A) Lots of useful apps aren't a great fit for a spreadsheet. AI seems to be opening many of those up the same way. B) Lots of spreadsheets have bugs which cause then to give wildly inaccurate results, which…

The problem is management and short-term stock-holder interest. If some spreadsheet cowboy convinces some C-level suit that this is the way to go, and it works now, not in 6 months time, IT and development will be made to bear the brunt. Same with AI. The most ardent supporters of its use seem to be the higher-ups, $$$ in their eyes. Convinced of their superior decision skills, they can wreck the place, or in their v…

Exactly! This is what I always say when people claim "AI won't replace jobs because jobs still need expertise !" While the cause statement is absolutely true, the people with the power/money don't believe it to be true (or, in some cases, don't care if it's true) and can get a quick win for the shareholders.

I wonder if there's gonna be a big reckoning of these "AI-first" companies suddenly people to fix their shitty vibe coded stuff. Ooh, new job title: AI fixer, minimum salary, $1m/yr, with RSU.

Re: DOOMscrolling: The Game

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Post by ironicsans »

auto wrote: post #79

Once I gave this sometime I actually enjoyed the concept quite a bit. I think it's a novel twist on the bullet hell genre, and I'm a sucker for single button/input style games. I'm playing on a mouse, specifically a Logitech G502 that I can "unlock" the screen wheel to be almost frictionless, which to me feels like the right meta for a game like this. Couple constructive criticisms: - Is there a pause button that I'm…

There’s a pause button on the bottom right. Or just tap P.

Re: DOOMscrolling: The Game

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Post by mananaysiempre »

ironicsans wrote: post #14
mananaysiempre wrote: post #9

> I had ChatGPT build labs with sliders that I could adjust to decide how I want things to appear, instead of getting frustrated with the chatbot. Your very own Steve Jobs Roll Your Own Calculator Construction Set[1]. (It is of course very common to do all sorts of game art using ad hoc parametric stuff like this, I just find the similarity amusing.) [1] https://www.folklore.org/Calculator_Construction_Set.html

This 100% occurred to me as I did it. I may not be a coder but I did read the Steve Jobs biography.

I actually haven’t :) But I did read the Macintosh stuff on folklore.org and I find it fascinating. (Read it several times, in fact, as it makes for very good procrastination...)

Re: DOOMscrolling: The Game

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Post by shafoshaf »

mananaysiempre wrote: post #9

> I had ChatGPT build labs with sliders that I could adjust to decide how I want things to appear, instead of getting frustrated with the chatbot. Your very own Steve Jobs Roll Your Own Calculator Construction Set[1]. (It is of course very common to do all sorts of game art using ad hoc parametric stuff like this, I just find the similarity amusing.) [1] https://www.folklore.org/Calculator_Construction_Set.html

It reminds my of this scene from ST:TNG [https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=22&v=VddS5IWxHd8&feature=you...]

Re: DOOMscrolling: The Game

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Post by bongodongobob »

tgv wrote: post #68
danielheath wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We already had to beat "I made a spreadsheet", which continues to be pretty damn hard even for large teams of experienced engineers - ask your finance team sometime how many custom spreadsheets they use regularly. A) Lots of useful apps aren't a great fit for a spreadsheet. AI seems to be opening many of those up the same way. B) Lots of spreadsheets have bugs which cause then to give wildly inaccurate results, which…

The problem is management and short-term stock-holder interest. If some spreadsheet cowboy convinces some C-level suit that this is the way to go, and it works now, not in 6 months time, IT and development will be made to bear the brunt. Same with AI. The most ardent supporters of its use seem to be the higher-ups, $$$ in their eyes. Convinced of their superior decision skills, they can wreck the place, or in their v…

We have an actual department that just supports spreadsheets and power bi reports for the c suite. That's all the poor bastards do.

Re: DOOMscrolling: The Game

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Post by yepitwas »

tgv wrote: post #68
danielheath wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We already had to beat "I made a spreadsheet", which continues to be pretty damn hard even for large teams of experienced engineers - ask your finance team sometime how many custom spreadsheets they use regularly. A) Lots of useful apps aren't a great fit for a spreadsheet. AI seems to be opening many of those up the same way. B) Lots of spreadsheets have bugs which cause then to give wildly inaccurate results, which…

The problem is management and short-term stock-holder interest. If some spreadsheet cowboy convinces some C-level suit that this is the way to go, and it works now, not in 6 months time, IT and development will be made to bear the brunt. Same with AI. The most ardent supporters of its use seem to be the higher-ups, $$$ in their eyes. Convinced of their superior decision skills, they can wreck the place, or in their v…

I've already seen (second hand, through my wife) a complete cycle of this:

- LLMs make writers (for the kind of formulaic crap we ghost-write) unnecessary. We're firing 75% of our writing + editing staff, mostly the writers. Editors will now use LLMs to do the whole thing.

- What do you mean even our best editor and best LLM-user is still taking 90% as long as the total writing + editing process before, and their parallel-work capabilities are down, so throughput is down to a trickle and also every remaining worker is pissed off about how intensely frustrating working with LLMs is so the whole team's grumbling about leaving? Of fuck, we committed (without asking you, naturally, and ignoring a ton of explicit warnings that this was a growing problem) to deadlines!

- Hires back nearly all the writers as contractors

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