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Let's get a timer to watch this fall off the front page of HN in minutes. "We can't allow this post to create FUD about the current hype on AI agents and we need the scam to continue as long as possible".
Link does not work for me but as someone who does a lot of work with LLMs I am also betting against agents. Agents have captivated the minds of groups of people in each large engineering org. I have no idea what their goal is other then they work on “GenAI”. For over a year now they have been working on agents with the promise that the next framework that MSFT or Alphabet publishes will solve their woes. They don’t a…
Link does not work for me but as someone who does a lot of work with LLMs I am also betting against agents. Agents have captivated the minds of groups of people in each large engineering org. I have no idea what their goal is other then they work on “GenAI”. For over a year now they have been working on agents with the promise that the next framework that MSFT or Alphabet publishes will solve their woes. They don’t a…
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Edit: not even going to reply to comments below as they continue down a singular path of oh you ought to know what they are trying to do. The only point I was making is orgs are going solution-first without a real problem they are trying to solve and I don’t think that is the right approach.
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An agent is an LLM + a tool call loop - it is quite a step up in terms of value in my experience
What is the use case? What does it solve exactly, or what practical value does it give you? I am not sure what a tool call loop is.
I updated a svelte component at work, and while i could test it in the browser and see it worked fine, the existing unit test suddenly started failing. I spent about an hour trying to figure out why the results logged in the test didn't match the results in the browser.
I got frustrated, gave in and asked Claude Code, an AI agent. The tool call loop is something like: it reads my code, then looks up the documentation, then proposed a change to the test which i approve, then it re-runs the test, feeds the output back into the AI, re-checks the documentation, and then proposes another change.
It's all quite impressive, or it would be if at one point it didn't randomly say "we fixed it! The first element is now active" -- except it wasn't, Claude thought the first element was element [1], when of course the first element in an array is [0]. The test hadn't even actually passed.
An hour and a few thousand Claude tokens my company paid for and got nothing back for lol.
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While true, the world doesn't end in 2025. While I would also agree that big financial benefits from agents to companies appear unlikely to arrive this year (and the title specifically mentions 2025) I would bet on agents becoming a disruptive technology in the next 5-10 years. My 2c.
Why this timeline? What’s missing today that would make it possible in 5-10 years?
Claude Code is impressive but it still produces quite a bit of garbage in my experience, and coding agents are likely to be the best agents around for the foreseeable future.
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What is the use case? What does it solve exactly, or what practical value does it give you? I am not sure what a tool call loop is.
The tools can be an editor/terminal/dev environment, automatically iterating to testing the changes and refining until a finished product, without a human developer, at least that is what some wish of it.
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That's what Claude Code does - it constantly stops and asks you whether you want to proceed, including showing you the suggested changes before they're implemented. Helps with avoiding token waste and 'bad' work.
thats good to hear, theyre on their way there! on a personal note, I'm happy to hear that. I've been apprehensive and haven't tried it, purely due to my fear of the cost.
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"Hard truth" and "reality check" in the same post is dead giveaway. I read and generate hundreds of posts every month. I have to read books on writing to keep myself sane and not sound like an AI.
True, the graphs are also wonky - the curves don't match the supposed math.