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> imagine one of the ships officers will be tipped off by the IT team If it’s any of the major cruise lines there almost certainly isn’t anyone in IT paying that much attention.
Since the cruise ship is named, there is a good chance someone at the company (even without technical skills) will notice this article and tip off IT this way.
I imagine one of the ships officers will be tipped off by the IT team about the unusual number of free-internet activation attached to your booking id, and either give your room a visit to knock it off, or just bill some multiple of the $170 anyway. It sounds like it should only be used only a few times per booking, and this is going to hit at least 4/hour for multiple hours a day, so it will stick out like a sore th…
There is A LOT of AP's on cruise ships. Odds are a few are crackable.
This is actually quite common: I've been on ferries, at airports, even hotels, which give you some amount of time for free, often anonymously. So just a mac address change gives extra internet. New Android versions make it especially convenient, with a "Wi-Fi non-persistent MAC randomization" option in the developer options, meaning you can just "forget" the wifi network and connect again with a fresh mac address. In…
I've never been to a cruise but want to go one day
It's quite boring to be honest. I think it can be good if you have small kids.
A boat with 100 hackers on board is in the middle of the ocean when the nav system gains self-awareness and decides not to return to land.
The boat is equipped with satellite communication devices, but passenger internet access is off.
Only 40 days of rations.
Will they be able to hack their way back to shore before they run out of red bull? Or will they turn to a life of piracy instead?
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Planes, at most, have a couple hundred people onboard. Cruise ships are getting towards the 10k person mark. One cruise ship will be substantially more load on the local satellites and ground station than a plane will.
The bandwidth of a single starlink terminal is going to be saturated at airplane capacity anyway. The extra number of people on a cruise ship just means service degradation, not excess bandwidth consumption. The price difference is just based on what the market will bear. Trapped on a cruise for a week, you are much more desperate for Internet. Plus you've paid a lot more for the trip and the fee doesn't feel so larg…
Which is resolved by charging, a lot, so there's enough bandwidth per active paying person.
This is actually quite common: I've been on ferries, at airports, even hotels, which give you some amount of time for free, often anonymously. So just a mac address change gives extra internet. New Android versions make it especially convenient, with a "Wi-Fi non-persistent MAC randomization" option in the developer options, meaning you can just "forget" the wifi network and connect again with a fresh mac address. In…
I think, in 2025 you are better off with this https://www.starlink.com/us/roam
Internet on any ship is expensive as soon as you're out in maritime area - where data transfer is done via satellite services. So it is not necessarily because a captive market, where the cruise liners can fleece you. They pay crazy prices to the telecom/ISPs. So if you're getting free internet out at seas, it is really at the cost of the ones actually paying the bills - or in this case, the cruise liner.
I was watching some cruise crew videos, and it turns out their biggest expense is internet. I'm curious why they don’t just install Starlink to cut costs and maybe sell to guests some "piracy" internet?
Source: I was a radio operator on Greenpeace ships for nearly 20 years
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Thanks! My thought process was that realistically, a negligible amount of people will even attempt this. Also, there will always be a way to bypass internet restrictions. I will say, it would be kind of cool if this post gets big enough that someone from the cruise line sees it and actually feels that they need to put in the time to patch it.
You’re on the front page of hn… while they may not see it right away it’s possible some bored tech blogger picks up the story
Did the article always say REDACTEDCRUISELINE ?