By the way, this is called theft of services.
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Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170
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Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170
#72This is actually quite common: I've been on ferries, at airports, even hotels, which give you some amount of time for free, often anonymously. So just a mac address change gives extra internet. New Android versions make it especially convenient, with a "Wi-Fi non-persistent MAC randomization" option in the developer options, meaning you can just "forget" the wifi network and connect again with a fresh mac address. In…
> port 53 I haven't needed it for... probably 15 years, but in the past (before 3G was common, and all you could rely on was WiFi hotspots) I have used iodine[0] as an IP over DNS tunnel. My uni friends were always impressed, and it really helped me a few times. The throughput was never great though, but enough for some basic browsing. Edit you have to be prepared ahead of time though, and it's the main reason I boug…
throughput was never great though
Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170
#73I've never been to a cruise but want to go one day
It's quite boring to be honest. I think it can be good if you have small kids.
Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170
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#75I was watching some cruise crew videos, and it turns out their biggest expense is internet. I'm curious why they don’t just install Starlink to cut costs and maybe sell to guests some "piracy" internet?
I thought [name-redacted] in fact used Starlink [link-redacted]
GP is talking about the employees getting their own Starlink sub, and competing directly with their employer's service.
Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170
#76I imagine one of the ships officers will be tipped off by the IT team about the unusual number of free-internet activation attached to your booking id, and either give your room a visit to knock it off, or just bill some multiple of the $170 anyway. It sounds like it should only be used only a few times per booking, and this is going to hit at least 4/hour for multiple hours a day, so it will stick out like a sore th…
> the unusual number of free-internet activation attached to your booking id, and either give your room a visit to knock it off
Cruise lines want happy customers. They aren’t going to do something to piss you off for $170.
Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170
#77This is actually quite common: I've been on ferries, at airports, even hotels, which give you some amount of time for free, often anonymously. So just a mac address change gives extra internet. New Android versions make it especially convenient, with a "Wi-Fi non-persistent MAC randomization" option in the developer options, meaning you can just "forget" the wifi network and connect again with a fresh mac address. In…
> but port 53 wasn't blocked, so a commercial VPN resulted in unlimited internet The VPN would have to accept a connection over 53 though, right? This also seems like a great way to possibly bypass VPN blocking via DPI, which I've been hit with before on airlines when going over 443.
Yeah, but it doesn't cost much to accept connections on all ports (AIM did it in the 90s).
DPI should be able to easily detect and block non-DNS traffic on port 53, as well as IP over DNS. Just a matter of configuration effort; but lots of networks lack configuration effort, so it's worth a try.
Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170
#78I imagine one of the ships officers will be tipped off by the IT team about the unusual number of free-internet activation attached to your booking id, and either give your room a visit to knock it off, or just bill some multiple of the $170 anyway. It sounds like it should only be used only a few times per booking, and this is going to hit at least 4/hour for multiple hours a day, so it will stick out like a sore th…
> the unusual number of free-internet activation attached to your booking id, and either give your room a visit to knock it off Cruise lines want happy customers. They aren’t going to do something to piss you off for $170.
Not sure. They are known to confiscate for example starlink etc.
Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170
#79I would never take a cruise but in other places with paid wifi that I did not want to pay for, IP-over-DNS tunneling worked well.
Which services or apps do you advise for it?
Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170
#80For those complaining about "first world problems"... for me this would be both about the sense of injustice and the joy finding a technical solution. We're on Hacker News, after all.
I'm not sure what you mean by this, but anyone on a cruise is almost certainly wealthy by global standards; it's not like there are poor people there to feel bad about for not having faster internet