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Re: Android 16 is here

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Post by warkdarrior »

echelon wrote: post #36
_ea1k wrote: post #30

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Yes, and most people hate it when they do that.

Probably the biggest case for a full-on Google breakup. Android being split from the platform components. A new company probably still couldn't develop platform pieces if that chink in the armor was made available by the DOJ. But if Google were split along those lines into two or more companies, it would provide nice and healthy gradients on both the hardware/OS and the platform/software sides of the market. We reall…

> Probably the biggest case for a full-on Google breakup. Android being split from the platform components.

Isn't core Android open source? As long as you do not need Google apps and Google services, you can use Android OSS right now without Google's platform components.

Re: Android 16 is here

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Post by surgical_fire »

esseph wrote: post #14
throw_m239339 wrote: post #12

I remember my first android device, it had like 512MO of RAM (and storage), and it was blazing fast, it could be used as a WIFI repeater too (which is why I still have it, although it 2.5G...). Fast forward 13 year later or so, if your android device doesn't have at least 8gig of RAM and 64gigs of storage, then it's pretty much useless given how bloated the OS (and the apps) have become... So basically, Android low e…

The same thing that happens to every OS, features and bloat. That said, Pixel devices all the way. No gross UI reskin, no having multiple copies of the same type of app (Samsung camera vs android camera, dialers, keyboards, etc.). Fast, stable, good features. If it's not a pixel device, you're probably going to have a "mid" experience.

I had 2 OnePlus devices in the past 7 years, and I had a great experience with both.

Very stable, nice UI, no hardware/batery issues, very responsive.

I don't know if I trust Google to make decent hardware. I am highly suspicious of Pixel phones.

Re: Android 16 is here

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Post by chasil »

MostlyStable wrote: post #22
esseph wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same thing that happens to every OS, features and bloat. That said, Pixel devices all the way. No gross UI reskin, no having multiple copies of the same type of app (Samsung camera vs android camera, dialers, keyboards, etc.). Fast, stable, good features. If it's not a pixel device, you're probably going to have a "mid" experience.

Which is unfortunate, because one of the strengths of Android was the diversity of the hardware ecosystem (although that strength has been lessening as manufacturers have all begun to converge on a common set of hardware features). You could get a phone that had the features you in particular wanted. Needing to buy a particular phone to get a good experience is a bummer. I say that as someone who has had several Pixe…

Can you unlock the bootloader on your Motorola and install LineageOS or something else?

If not, are you able to buy another Motorola phone where this is possible?

Re: Android 16 is here

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Post by thaumasiotes »

dzonga wrote: post #43
esseph wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same thing that happens to every OS, features and bloat. That said, Pixel devices all the way. No gross UI reskin, no having multiple copies of the same type of app (Samsung camera vs android camera, dialers, keyboards, etc.). Fast, stable, good features. If it's not a pixel device, you're probably going to have a "mid" experience.

pixel devices are nice when they work. but damn hardware quality is shoddy in terms of aging. my pixel 6a battery got swollen with less than 3 years. I have a first gen iphone se still in use. I also had a pixel 3a that I couldn't find a screen replacement for luckily for me -- google accepted a trade in when the 6a got released. the pixels have a overheating problem -- this you can google for. oh yeah, when automati…

My Pixel 6a (my current phone) has no battery swelling.

On the other hand, it takes over a minute to decide that it's confirmed a GPS location. The Pixel 3a will do the same thing in more like one second. The utter failure of the GPS on the Pixel 6a (and possibly other related phones?) seems to be a known, common issue.

I do have overheating problems. The phone won't work outdoors in climates that are less nice than California. Which surprises me, since that's most of the world.

Re: Android 16 is here

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Post by idle_zealot »

It's deeply disappointing to see that the multitasking solution for tablets that Google and Apple have settled on is... desktop-style floating windows, but without workspaces or window snapping.

There's so much space here to experiment with tiling views, scrolling columns of windows, whatever. Floating windows are cumbersome enough when you have a mouse and big display to spread things out on. I've tried this floating window thing in beta on my Pixel Tablet and iPad's windowing on the iPadOS 26 beta and they're basically worthless. A straight downgrade compared to the existing split views. They'd have done better to just let me add more apps to a split view.

Re: Android 16 is here

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Post by hwc »

If Android is getting desktop windowing, how long until I can just plug my phone into a monitor and keyboard and have a usable computer?

Re: Android 16 is here

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Post by Pxtl »

layer8 wrote: post #68
butlike wrote: post #49

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The issue is this reaction never sticks. Everyone's up in arms, but would you really want to go back to Android KitKat or iOS 2? Probably not for more than novelty, right?

I would really want to go back to something like the look of iOS 1-6, with clearly discernible UI controls vs. content and labels. Not the real-world-mimicry skeuomorphism, but the look of the standard UI controls.

Web ruined everything. Got everybody thinking that flag rectangles were cool and consistent ui frameworks were old fashioned.

Re: Android 16 is here

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Post by chasil »

zb3 wrote: post #46

Ah, so the "Linux Terminal" app is not yet ready for any announcements. This app with 3D acceleration enabling running graphical linux systems is what I'm waiting for, but it looks like we'll wait another year..

Connectbot has a local terminal that I have always used for this purpose.
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