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Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by mdp2021 »

blacksmith_tb wrote: post #70
mdp2021 wrote: post #26

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It's shocking to read opinions that kids would not «have that level of self-control». Children can display self-control... And of course they can. (Just a tiny example: in many countries, we have them study since the age of five, sometimes earlier. They already have a sufficiently working anterior cingulate gyrus at and before that age; they have understanding of tradeoffs at and before that age.) -- Ooooh, hitters t…

Does that explain why most societies don't permit children to drive cars? Perhaps that's not based on development, but just being too short? I kid, but clearly we don't let children drive, vote, drink alcohol, have sex etc. because of general observations about their limits, including self-control.

We don't let children vote because they are not wise enough: we demand a threshold for accrued mental competence is gained. Similarly, cars give them a power similar to that of guns: hence the restriction past the threshold.

We don't let children damage themselves because it is plain indefensible. If they want to, they must have passed said formal threshold.

These are not matters of self control.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by sandspar »

I support banning porn. You've got coordinated "teams" of men, most of them diagnosable sociopaths, who work as a group to manipulate and destroy teenagers. For every one woman you see on a porn website, there's a network of 10 men who are working as a coordinated team to manipulate her. Most of the young women are from broken homes, many of them are low IQ, and many of them were sexually abused as children by male authority figures. The male pornographer teams work together to push the teenage women into harder and harder stuff, basically stuff that causes more permanent physical and psychological damage. Once the woman has reached her capacity for pain and humiliation, she's cast out of the scene, likely with a drug addiction, likely ending up in prostitution. Saying that porn is "sexual education" or "empowering" or whatever is like saying that factory farming is the same as James Herriot-type farms. They're different in kind: in brutality, scale, and automation.

If you visit a website like Pornhub then you're complicit in this.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by pishpash »

callamdelaney wrote: post #80
amriksohata wrote: post #77

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This never happens tho - parents dont sometimes even know how to use the tech. Its like giving a gun to a child and telling them its ok, just remember when you open the packaging to take the safety off. ...and oh yeh the safety software changes every few months so you will have to review it

Apparently the average age of mothers is 30 - these parents should understand the risks of technology having be exposed to it themselves but we don’t seem to be seeing improvement in this area like we might expect.

A mother of 30 can't compete with shareholder interest working 24/7.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

mdp2021 wrote: post #18
SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #14

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There's a big cultural gap here. To people who are concerned about porn, it's like asking why we have to stop children from buying handles of vodka. Can't you just educate them to avoid drinking to excess? No, you can't, they don't have that level of self-control yet. Isn't it unfair to the responsible bakers who just want a really tender pie crust? Yes, it is, but they're going to have to deal with it. Won't a deter…

Alchool is poison. If you handle it maturely, it remains an intoxicant. Chocolate should be eaten with restraint. If you handle it maturely, it remains something not that comparable to alchool.

Right. The question is whether porn is poisonous, and many people (myself included) genuinely feel the answer is yes. Mature, responsible adults can often ration their consumption enough to avoid too many negative effects - as they do with alcohol - but even adults sometimes fail and for children it's much harder.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by pishpash »

dakiol wrote: post #72
sltkr wrote: post #16

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How is that surprising? After the US, the three largest Western countries are Germany (which already banned Pornhub), the UK and France, but the UK and France are virtually tied in terms of population, so it was always going to be a tossup between the two.

Always wondered why latin america is not considered the "western" world (it surely is not on the east side of... whatever mark you put in the world. Actually if one uses the greenwich meridian, that would leave countries like Germany on the "east" side of the world).

Western world = prior colonial powers and their vassal states. Non-Western world = prior colonies that became independent.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by david-gpu »

dminik wrote: post #67
david-gpu wrote: post #49

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I get wanting to keep illegal activities unknown to the authorities, so I'll concede that. But in the context of this thread, where a company was threatening to do this in a developed democratic country, that is not an issue, is it? Societal disapproval can be divided between people you interact with and strangers. Why would anybody what strangers think of them, particularly when those strangers would have to been ru…

Would you be willing to share your full name and your porn browsing habits? Here, to everyone reading this thread?

You are making the same argument as somebody else on this thread, as if this was some sort of a gotcha.

I don't go around talking about my porn watching habits for the simple reason that I am sufficiently attuned to social customs to understand that nobody has any interest in them.

You can't be shamed for something you are not ashamed of. If a porn provider made them public for whatever reason, it would not bother me one iota. So, I am asking, genuinely, why would anybody care.

So far the replies are things like "do eet!! lOLLOL" or "it can get you killed", so I have lost interest at this point. After some thought, I guess that some people are unquestioningly ashamed of their sexual preferences, which is sad. Living your life without the burden of shame is much better, as any queer person can tell you. There's nothing wrong with what you like.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by david-gpu »

Yeul wrote: post #63
macintux wrote: post #25

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Porn is considered a highly private activity for many reasons: societal disapproval, religious prohibitions...heck in some countries, watching gay porn is potentially a death sentence.

As recent events have proven we cannot be sure that a bunch of religious conservatives won't come into power. I am a member of a leftist political party in my country and I have no doubt that if the fascists get their hands on the membership database I'm shipped off to a prison camp.

Yeah, that is something I can understand. Same sort of reason I am scared of my (otherwise boring) reading habits becoming public.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Post by vips7L »

dakiol wrote: post #72
sltkr wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is that surprising? After the US, the three largest Western countries are Germany (which already banned Pornhub), the UK and France, but the UK and France are virtually tied in terms of population, so it was always going to be a tossup between the two.

Always wondered why latin america is not considered the "western" world (it surely is not on the east side of... whatever mark you put in the world. Actually if one uses the greenwich meridian, that would leave countries like Germany on the "east" side of the world).

Economics and sadly race.
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