Fascinating that France is PH's second-biggest market, presumably after the US.
Savoir-vivre.
After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes
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Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes
#22Fascinating that France is PH's second-biggest market, presumably after the US.
How is that surprising? After the US, the three largest Western countries are Germany (which already banned Pornhub), the UK and France, but the UK and France are virtually tied in terms of population, so it was always going to be a tossup between the two.
what makes you think it's banned in Germany?
Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes
#23It’s smart to be using a VPN for any sort of adult internet use these days anyway. Vixen Media Group is extorting people by threatening to leak their identity if they don’t pay up[0]. And not by a 3rd-party collections company either - it’s their own parent company making the demands. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vixen_Media_Group#Legal_action https://www.reddit.com/r/VPNTorrents/comments/1d3wfiz/my_exp...
Why does anybody care that their porn viewing habits become public? To me it sounds as ridiculous as somebody threatening to publish a log of the food we eat or the music we listen to.
Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes
#24> "and having offshore porn sites or any other third parties collect IDs from adults and becoming a repository of potential blackmail material comes with its own risks [...] A more technically sound approach would be content controls directly implemented on the devices parents chose to give their children" said the company's (Proton's) spokesperson While I agree with their second point, the first argument sounds a bi…
> “double-anonymity” or "double-blind" protocol: the site never sees the user’s identity, the verifier never learns which site is being visited, and only a yes/no “18+” token is exchanged.
Isn't this an actually reasonable solution? I assumed age verification was supposed to be done by the site itself, and therefore it was considered a very bad idea. But this... what's the problem with this method?
Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes
#25It’s smart to be using a VPN for any sort of adult internet use these days anyway. Vixen Media Group is extorting people by threatening to leak their identity if they don’t pay up[0]. And not by a 3rd-party collections company either - it’s their own parent company making the demands. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vixen_Media_Group#Legal_action https://www.reddit.com/r/VPNTorrents/comments/1d3wfiz/my_exp...
Why does anybody care that their porn viewing habits become public? To me it sounds as ridiculous as somebody threatening to publish a log of the food we eat or the music we listen to.
Porn is considered a highly private activity for many reasons: societal disapproval, religious prohibitions...heck in some countries, watching gay porn is potentially a death sentence.
Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a big cultural gap here. To people who are concerned about porn, it's like asking why we have to stop children from buying handles of vodka. Can't you just educate them to avoid drinking to excess? No, you can't, they don't have that level of self-control yet. Isn't it unfair to the responsible bakers who just want a really tender pie crust? Yes, it is, but they're going to have to deal with it. Won't a deter…
> Can't you just educate them to avoid drinking to excess? No, you can't, they don't have that level of self-control yet This is not only untrue, it's actually the only worthwhile course. I know that bans, rules, and technical solutions are not substitutes for parenting. This is why all the kids of the parents I know who have tried that are doing all the supposedly disallowed things secretly (and circumventing the te…
It's shocking to read opinions that kids would not «have that level of self-control». Children can display self-control... And of course they can.
(Just a tiny example: in many countries, we have them study since the age of five, sometimes earlier. They already have a sufficiently working anterior cingulate gyrus at and before that age; they have understanding of tradeoffs at and before that age.)
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Ooooh, hitters that will probably reveal to be snipers. That just confirms the point: if some people think it normal to gesticulate and not formulate - well, that's them, not all... Some children will have a weaker will. Some will have a stronger one! And surely it can be educated.
Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes
#27It’s smart to be using a VPN for any sort of adult internet use these days anyway. Vixen Media Group is extorting people by threatening to leak their identity if they don’t pay up[0]. And not by a 3rd-party collections company either - it’s their own parent company making the demands. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vixen_Media_Group#Legal_action https://www.reddit.com/r/VPNTorrents/comments/1d3wfiz/my_exp...
Why does anybody care that their porn viewing habits become public? To me it sounds as ridiculous as somebody threatening to publish a log of the food we eat or the music we listen to.
people have things they don't want everyone to know. how is wanting a small amount of privacy ridiculous?
Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes
#28It’s smart to be using a VPN for any sort of adult internet use these days anyway. Vixen Media Group is extorting people by threatening to leak their identity if they don’t pay up[0]. And not by a 3rd-party collections company either - it’s their own parent company making the demands. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vixen_Media_Group#Legal_action https://www.reddit.com/r/VPNTorrents/comments/1d3wfiz/my_exp...
Why does anybody care that their porn viewing habits become public? To me it sounds as ridiculous as somebody threatening to publish a log of the food we eat or the music we listen to.
Why have privacy if you have nothing to hide?
On another note, a lot of places, including those in the west will ostracize you for listening to the wrong music or eating the wrong foods.
Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes
#29> "and having offshore porn sites or any other third parties collect IDs from adults and becoming a repository of potential blackmail material comes with its own risks [...] A more technically sound approach would be content controls directly implemented on the devices parents chose to give their children" said the company's (Proton's) spokesperson While I agree with their second point, the first argument sounds a bi…
If the only thing that verifier does is verification for accessing digital pornography, it remains blackmail-able. Not in the sense of identifying the specific content accessed but in the sense of "this user has gone through the steps to gain access" which is, frankly, good enough.
After verifying the ID, there is no reason the verifier needs to know to whom a token belongs, which would help this. It doesn't need to be repudiatable in practice because the security risk of a leak is near 0 and nobody ages backwards.
Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes
#30It’s smart to be using a VPN for any sort of adult internet use these days anyway. Vixen Media Group is extorting people by threatening to leak their identity if they don’t pay up[0]. And not by a 3rd-party collections company either - it’s their own parent company making the demands. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vixen_Media_Group#Legal_action https://www.reddit.com/r/VPNTorrents/comments/1d3wfiz/my_exp...
Sounds like the actual dumb move is torrenting without a VPN. Even if you're torrenting to watch prestige television, you'd still want to have a VPN to avoid getting sued. On the flip side, I don't think anyone got sued from watching pirated porn from a streaming site.