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Tesla Hate Is Making Insurance More Expensive for Owners

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Re: Tesla Hate Is Making Insurance More Expensive for Owners

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The downvotes on all tesla threads recently are abyssmal. God forbid someone mentions vandalising someone's property isn't likely to make them join your cause.

The fascists aren't trying to get us to join their cause, they're trying to disfranchise us and drive us out of the country. Trying to get them to join our cause would be idiotic--they aren't playing by those rules. Trying to placate fascists is how our milquetoast liberal party got us into this mess in the first place.

Re: Tesla Hate Is Making Insurance More Expensive for Owners

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The whole point is new buyers.. People are protesting Musk. Something like 75% of Musk's current wealth comes from Tesla stock. Tesla stock is going down.. so it is helping the cause

If you look at places like Reddit where the organizing is happening, they don't differentiate between left-leaning buyers of years past, and in fact call them out for being complicit by not selling their (paid for?) car. It's scorched earth and is not limited to new buyers.

> by not selling their (paid for?) car.

It's even more confusing, who are they supposed to sell it to, if no one should drive these cars (and how big of a loss are they expected to take in order to sell it)?

Re: Tesla Hate Is Making Insurance More Expensive for Owners

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Might effect new buyers decisions I guess, but since about 99% of Tesla's were sold to green, left-leaning buyers, before the Elon hate-fest, I am not sure how targeting that group of people for your hatred is helping any "cause".

It's clearly intended to impact new buyers. Most of Musk's wealth is tied up in Tesla, and that funding allowed him to both buy an election and -- gestures broadly -- demonstrate convincingly that he is an absolutely reprehensible, garbage-bin of a human. The rich used to start ivy leagues and build libraries. This guy is cutting off funding for the poor and declaring himself, proudly, a "deadly threat" to people he…

> And of the people I know with Teslas, zero of them are "green, left-leaning" buyers.

White petit bourgeois center-right corporate capitalist Democrats that engage in environmental virtue signalling are “left-leaning”, if you view things from sufficiently far to the right.

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That's the funny thing here. In case of Musk, if those protests work and as you say 'the jig is up', he can go from the richest man on earth to bankrupt in a space of months. He is very 'cash poor' and has pledged a lot of Tesla shares as collateral to fund his other businesses. If Tesla is priced as an automaker (shares would be in the ±10-20$), Musk will be bankrupt.

Hence why they've now said they're a robot company. Yet any bullish targets now are more likely to be based on Musk awarding himself large government contracts than technical advancements.

Didn't he cancel a large Tesla contract from the government?

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Might effect new buyers decisions I guess, but since about 99% of Tesla's were sold to green, left-leaning buyers, before the Elon hate-fest, I am not sure how targeting that group of people for your hatred is helping any "cause".

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What exactly are you saying that we CT owners "deserve"? I like my CT. It has served my family well for a year. It's a car, not a political statement. I hope that this kind of vicious sentiment doesn't become mainstream.

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Nah. Insurance is based on the numbers, and Tesla is a shitty company to have financial liability to fix. There’s no parts, few shops, and lots of stuff to get stuck with. A friend had a rental for 4 months when the panoramic sunroof cracked on his Tesla. The vandalism isn’t computed in yet, and will immediately resulted in dropped coverage. If the Feds label it as terrorism, insurance generally excludes riot and ter…

> insurance generally excludes riot and terrorism from coverage anyway. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_Risk_Insurance_Act TRIA insurance against terrorism is required by law to be offered as a rider. It's actually shockingly affordable, because the law shifts the ultimate financial burden for any events between $200 million to $100 billion onto the federal government. So insurers have a reasonable cap on the…

Is there a downside to having a terrorism rider, other than higher premiums?

For example, if your insurance company would otherwise have to declare a claim as due to non-terrorism, and just pay it (because they'd probably lose in court if they didn't pay), but because you had the terrorism rider, they decide to declare it as due to terrorism, and then you get a less-desirable experience?

(For imagined example of less-desirable, maybe you have to wait longer to get paid while the company interacts with gov't, or the reimbursement is calculated or capped differently, or some consumer protection you'd normally have doesn't apply.)

Re: Tesla Hate Is Making Insurance More Expensive for Owners

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Might effect new buyers decisions I guess, but since about 99% of Tesla's were sold to green, left-leaning buyers, before the Elon hate-fest, I am not sure how targeting that group of people for your hatred is helping any "cause".

This probably doesn't fit the two-team paradigm. When you consider the objectives might be something different from ensuring democrats win offices in two years, the rationale may make more sense.

Re: Tesla Hate Is Making Insurance More Expensive for Owners

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It's clearly intended to impact new buyers. Most of Musk's wealth is tied up in Tesla, and that funding allowed him to both buy an election and -- gestures broadly -- demonstrate convincingly that he is an absolutely reprehensible, garbage-bin of a human. The rich used to start ivy leagues and build libraries. This guy is cutting off funding for the poor and declaring himself, proudly, a "deadly threat" to people he…

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> Somehow he is a "reprehensible" person because he has the most milquetoast middle of the road centrist liberal opinions.

Yeah, throwing Nazi salutes and endorsing neo-Nazi parties are signs of “the most milquetoast middle of the road centrist liberal opinions”.

Re: Tesla Hate Is Making Insurance More Expensive for Owners

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Today I saw a diesel truck roll coal on anti-tesla protestors. We've gone full circle.

I'm curious if that's plausibly an act of criminal assault.

There's no laws any more
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