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Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by Sharlin »

ubermonkey wrote: post #63
everdrive wrote: post #4

This is emblematic of the LLM race in general. We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work, and it’s crammed into every Microsoft product. I’m thankful that my iPhone is old enough not to use LLMs. Companies are afraid of being left behind in the new arms race, but that doesn’t actually mean that the technology actually present use-cases which most people need. (Worse are the meeting summaries or emails which ar…

"We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work" Holy shit, really? That sounds horrific.

Not that different from any other buzzword hype bubble technology that clueless easily-manipulated management got sold on and imposed on everybody.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by criddell »

jjice wrote: post #45

I'm new to iOS - just switched from Android about 10 days ago. I didn't move for Apple Intelligence, but it's a feature I've played with. - Writing tools are neat, but I don't have much use for them. They worked pretty alright. - Image playground is neat, but I haven't and probably won't use it outside of goofing around and showing a buddy. - The new Siri is awful. I don't know the old Siri very well, but it's just n…

Have you played with Shortcuts yet? That's the one iOS (and I suposed iPadOS and macOS) feature that simultaneously makes me very happy and infuriates me. It's so satisfying to get something working, but it's usually a pretty frustrating experience getting there.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by behnamoh »

everdrive wrote: post #4

This is emblematic of the LLM race in general. We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work, and it’s crammed into every Microsoft product. I’m thankful that my iPhone is old enough not to use LLMs. Companies are afraid of being left behind in the new arms race, but that doesn’t actually mean that the technology actually present use-cases which most people need. (Worse are the meeting summaries or emails which ar…

3 years ago, I and many people were using GPT-3 on our iPhones and Apple Watches (see for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDB3uIEgU0E&t=36s). For 3 years I wondered why Apple wouldn't make it a native feature.

- Was it because they didn't want to use a third-party AI system? No, because Apple Intelligence uses ChatGPT anyway.

- Was it because Apple didn't know how to add AI features to iOS? No, if anything they have access to way more APIs than I had when I built the iOS Shortcut in the video.

- Was it because Apple didn't take AI seriously? This to me sounds silly but in retrospect, I'm starting to believe this was exactly the case. Apple has been on a wrong trajectory for the past few years:

- They were busy building Apple Car. Then when the AI pressure finally kicked in, they stopped the car project. Why were they in the car business in the first place?! And why did they simply tell most Apple Car employees to work on AI now? Cars also have AI but it's not the same thing.

- They built Apple Vision Pro but have failed to showcase any real-world use case for it yet. Apple Intelligence isn't even supported on the AVP. I don't want to call it a failed project but by many measures it is.

- Apple, and specifically Tim Cook, are great at optimization: from the supply chain to setting optimal prices that extract the most value from customers. But they forgot what allowed them to do this in the first place: a decade-long vision set by Steve Jobs.

Current day Apple isn't going to disappear, but it's becoming less and less relevant in the broader tech landscape. In a sense, Apple has become the McDonald's of handheld gadgets. But if I want the latest tech, the most interesting use-cases of AI, or simply ground-braking devices no one has heard of, I'd go to a French/Persian/etc. restaurant instead of Apple's McDonalds.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by nomilk »

I'm weirdly happy with Apple taking their time. Seeing AI stuffed into every nook and crevice of various non-Apple apps has made me appreciate apps that use AI tastefully or not at all (counter example: today I tried the LLM built into GitHub's feed page - to describe it as a 'toy' or 'trash' is not overstating how embarrassingly useless it is!). Better not to have junk features, or ones that use AI for AI's sake.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by dylan604 »

jstummbillig wrote: post #68

So, surveys. "Smartphone users in general are unsatisfied with the existing AI features as the survey recorded 73% of Apple Intelligence users and 87% of Galaxy AI users stating the new features to be either ‘not very valuable’ or they ‘add little to no value’ to their smartphone experience." This could be read as 27% of users, who have tried a brand new way of interacting with their phone, found it useful to some de…

> This could be read as 27% of users

Not necessarily. Poll results are not %Pro + %Con = 100%. It could equally be likely that 83% find no use and 27% have not tried it leaving 0% liking it.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by ellisv »

pid-1 wrote: post #27
everdrive wrote: post #4

This is emblematic of the LLM race in general. We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work, and it’s crammed into every Microsoft product. I’m thankful that my iPhone is old enough not to use LLMs. Companies are afraid of being left behind in the new arms race, but that doesn’t actually mean that the technology actually present use-cases which most people need. (Worse are the meeting summaries or emails which ar…

I've brought MS Copilot licenses for my company in ~ February 2023. They were sold in a yearly commitment and offered no trials. A bad deal, but I was afraid of missing out AI productivity gains. I'm definitely not renewing those. Times are hard and the value provided does not justify the cost. I wonder how many companies will do the same.

Interesting because I pay for Copilot and Supermaven, although most of my coworkers don't. To be fair, it was twisting their arms to get them to use linters, formatters, and other tools so I think asking them to use AI auto-complete is a bit much right now.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by rock_artist »

Only "intelligent" thing that happened with this Apple shift is finally giving a (minor) bump of RAM to their product line.

Apple 202x is all about hardware. It's quite nice seeing how latest FCP leverage the new hardware to improve workflow harnessing NPU. I do hope their software would catch up. it's quite strange that Siri which isn't even using basic LLM yet.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by Royce-CMR »

Apreche wrote: post #16

I was considering enabling it, and I could see the features being useful for some people, but not for me. For example, notification summaries. If someone has apps blasting them with notifications, summarizing them into fewer more meaningful ones could be truly helpful. But for me, I’ve carefully managed my notifications. I get almost none. Every single one that is enabled is important and actionable. I don’t need to…

Agreed. Different for different people. Notification summaries are a lifesaver for me.

Work MS teams but no copilot, lots of group chats about lower environment issues or prod issues that move super fast. The summaries have legit saved me 10 min of getting up to speed, and let me decide quickly if I need to intervene or keep working my separate workstream.

The only downside for me - it keeps the summaries VERY short. Another 5-8 words as a in between notification and full app open would be great for me. (But, I acknowledge I’m likely an edge case)

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