I work four eight-hour days (with a concomitant 20% pay cut), and I'm never going back. I did try a five-day year, after six or so years of a four-day week, but that just made me cement my decision to not work five days. A two-day weekend is too short, a five-day workweek is too long. 4/3 is the perfect split.
This is true in my opinion. But if you worked the fifth day and invested all your fifth-day earnings, you could retire/become financially independent a decade earlier. I'm not sure it's so clear cut which of these is the better option.
Sure, but a 20% more twenties and thirties is much more valuable to me than 100% more sixties.
I work four eight-hour days (with a concomitant 20% pay cut), and I'm never going back. I did try a five-day year, after six or so years of a four-day week, but that just made me cement my decision to not work five days. A two-day weekend is too short, a five-day workweek is too long. 4/3 is the perfect split.
A 4-day work week at 80% pay is the dream for me. I had the chance to work a 3x12 week for a year and it was the best year of my entire life. There’s nothing more valuable than time.
It's all well and good to pretend that this is the case, but it isn't. Most jobs involve some obvious measure of progress. Especially under the umbrella of "service." Women disproportionately choose these jobs: nurses, servers, etc. Women are more educated, hell the last time I went to the doctor there was a resident, a nurse, and a doctor, all three where women. There could be some jobs where it's hard to measure pr…
As someone who has done fake work knowingly, what do you say to me? That I was actually providing real progress, just that it was difficult to measure, and I am fooling myself? No, it was fake work, and I've seen many peers do the same over the years.
I would say your experience is your own but I am unable to judge the "usefulness" of it without specifics, and that is a subjective thing. What you might have decided is useless I might decide otherwise. What can be said for sure is the person paying you either thought it was useful or didn't care
IMO: I have never worked in a job where I would have been like "heck yeah, four day work week lets do it". Part of that is, there's kinda two distinct and separate camps, and sometimes its unclear which camp people are in and what we're fighting for. Is it "I work ~40 hours in four days" or "I work ~32 hours in four days"? And my take is, I don't like either of these solutions. I've never worked in a role where I fee…
> I've never worked in a role where I feel like working 32 hours a week would deliver meaningfully similar results to working 40 hours. It may be my neurodivergency, but I'm the exact opposite. There's rarely a job where I'm *actually, butts-in-seats working* for 40 hours a week where I would deliver, over a study period of months, more good, correct and helpful work than if I spend less time at work. I could probabl…
I've rarely met anyone who can get more than four useful hours a day. Sure, there's lots more time when you are thinking about work, writing code in your head, prioritizing, and planning. That stuff can and does happen when you sit at your desk, or while you are biking, running, doing laundry, or watching tv.
I know this is HN and most people here heavily support WFH. But as this article shows, people will support whatever benefits they can get, even if it is very likely come at the cost of productivity. With WFH, it is a mixed bag of whether that would affect productivity or not but from a risk averse management perspective, it is understandable that they don't want to risk it and go back to the traditional mode. In my (…
If we are talking fairness, I will take the doctor salary, thx.
I used to work 4x10 hour days, Sun-Wed, 2nd shift. It was OK, but I was ecstatic when I was finally able to move to a normal 9-5 Mon-Fri schedule. It's so much nicer to have society's expectations of when you are meant to be working to match when you are actually working.
As someone who has done fake work knowingly, what do you say to me? That I was actually providing real progress, just that it was difficult to measure, and I am fooling myself? No, it was fake work, and I've seen many peers do the same over the years.
I would say your experience is your own but I am unable to judge the "usefulness" of it without specifics, and that is a subjective thing. What you might have decided is useless I might decide otherwise. What can be said for sure is the person paying you either thought it was useful or didn't care
> didn't care
ding ding. Managers are paid roughly based on the number of employees they manage, so they will hire as many people as possible.
I work four eight-hour days (with a concomitant 20% pay cut), and I'm never going back. I did try a five-day year, after six or so years of a four-day week, but that just made me cement my decision to not work five days. A two-day weekend is too short, a five-day workweek is too long. 4/3 is the perfect split.
This is true in my opinion. But if you worked the fifth day and invested all your fifth-day earnings, you could retire/become financially independent a decade earlier. I'm not sure it's so clear cut which of these is the better option.
To be honest, it probably depends on (a) how much you value your sixties over your twenties-thirties and (b) how much you trust the market to not take a barrel roll
> I'm not sure I'd say the QoL for the ultra-rich has been improved that much. It has. What you’re missing is that everybody on this forum is part of the top one percent: it all depends on the scale. On a global scale, if you live in the west, most likely you’re in the top 1%.
> What you’re missing is that everybody on this forum is part of the top one percent Hardly. People here have a higher-than-one-percent chance of being in the top 1%, but it's a long way from "everyone here". > On a global scale, if you live in the west, most likely you’re in the top 1%. Obviously wrong. The global population is 8 billion; the US plus the EU is about 700 million.
And you have a not insignificant number of 1%ers in Saudi Arabia and China, and scattered around the rest of the world as well. Wasn't the CEO of Alibaba the richest person in the world for a minute circa 2020?