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Once You Try a Four-Day Workweek, It's Hard to Go Back

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Re: Once You Try a Four-Day Workweek, It's Hard to Go Back

#21
So this is fewer hours as well, right? Not just the same 40 hours but compressed into 4 days?

It doesn't seem unreasonable it could work for some jobs and people. Too many hours and people tend to get stressed, tired, worried about home matters they can't attend to, etc - and their performance suffers as a result.

Depends a lot on the job and person, though.

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#23
Aldous Huxley imagined in the '20s we would automate most things and work less in the future. Today we work more than ever together with increased automation, and women work as well instad of being home to take care of the household.

On paper it looks like progress, but I'm not so sure about the quality of life.

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#25

> Employers saw benefits, too: 70% reported that recruiting workers was easier once they went to a four-day schedule—a boon in a country where many industries complain that intense competition for talent drives up costs. I mean, that's definitely going away if all other employers also move to four-day workweeks, so it seems like you shouldn't factor that in as one of the benefits of this schedule.

It won't be every employer - but it will come to cover large swaths of companies in industries where performance takes precedence over presence.

And you're right, it would eventually go away - but only if and when late adopters find themselves being punished by the market.

Re: Once You Try a Four-Day Workweek, It's Hard to Go Back

#27
I know this is HN and most people here heavily support WFH. But as this article shows, people will support whatever benefits they can get, even if it is very likely come at the cost of productivity. With WFH, it is a mixed bag of whether that would affect productivity or not but from a risk averse management perspective, it is understandable that they don't want to risk it and go back to the traditional mode.

In my (likely very controversial to HN) opinion, software devs are already heavily compensated compared to other professions and adding more benefits on top of that in the form of WFH just make it even more unfair. What is fair? It is what the employers are willing to pay and if most are demanding RTO then that is just what the market is willing to bear.

Most jobs do not have the luxury of WFH. Not for a doctor, a biologist, a chemist, a civil engineer, a lawyer, etc. They are required to come to office to work and they are often paid less than a software dev.

Re: Once You Try a Four-Day Workweek, It's Hard to Go Back

#28
I did a schedule of four 10 hour days for a few years in the military (with every fourth week being an extra three six hour days because someone had to be there at all times).

It was absolutely amazing for actually being able to get things done. I hated going back to the regular five day week after that.

Re: Once You Try a Four-Day Workweek, It's Hard to Go Back

#30

I know this is HN and most people here heavily support WFH. But as this article shows, people will support whatever benefits they can get, even if it is very likely come at the cost of productivity. With WFH, it is a mixed bag of whether that would affect productivity or not but from a risk averse management perspective, it is understandable that they don't want to risk it and go back to the traditional mode. In my (…

Any comments like this seem disingenuous when even 1 billionaire exists.

It reminds me of people complaining of why are train drivers striking, when they're already paid more than nurses, thus how dare they.

Wealthy inequality isn't between us common folk, it's between them (the ultra wealthy) and us.

If there truly was fair compensation, there wouldn't be anyone with that much money. We're already doubtful of the 10x engineer, let alone the 1,000,000,000,000x engineer.

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