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ESPN AI recap of Alex Morgan’s final professional match fails to mention her

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Re: ESPN AI recap of Alex Morgan’s final professional match fails to mention her

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I don't think people do actually consume it. In my experience this content was purely for SEO or maybe just a headline that people read quickly to keep up-to-date. The actual article content is rarely seen by a human.

that's a form of consumption

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Re: ESPN AI recap of Alex Morgan’s final professional match fails to mention her

#82
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the depression shouldn't arise from the generation, but from the consumption, for it is the latter that ultimately drives the former; that, in turn, can generate a reflection on what I myself consume.

I don't think people do actually consume it. In my experience this content was purely for SEO or maybe just a headline that people read quickly to keep up-to-date. The actual article content is rarely seen by a human.

isn't the point of seo to get in front of consumers?

Re: ESPN AI recap of Alex Morgan’s final professional match fails to mention her

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It's pretty funny to me that this is used as a hit-piece against AI generated content. Here's an open-secret for everyone: web-based sports content companies have been automatically generating content articles for at least a decade; way before LLMs became popular. It is and was mostly done for search ranking. The more seemingly applicable content, the better your SEO. This situation has probably happened several time…

You're missing the entire point. LLMs are super overhyped and this is the 9000th example of how garbage LLM generated "content" is. It doesn't matter that garbage was being generated before. If LLMs were only being sold as "it might be better than the spam generator you're using today" we wouldn't have the current bubble where people are losing their jobs because C-suite clowns believe the hype.

Re: ESPN AI recap of Alex Morgan’s final professional match fails to mention her

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It's pretty funny to me that this is used as a hit-piece against AI generated content. Here's an open-secret for everyone: web-based sports content companies have been automatically generating content articles for at least a decade; way before LLMs became popular. It is and was mostly done for search ranking. The more seemingly applicable content, the better your SEO. This situation has probably happened several time…

ESPN has been in decline since longer than LLMs have been around. More explicit use of AI is just accelerating the downward spiral.

Re: ESPN AI recap of Alex Morgan’s final professional match fails to mention her

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Well AI certainly didn't make it better in this case. The fact that it is profitable to make this generic sports-lingo-laced content is, on its own, pretty depressing.

the depression shouldn't arise from the generation, but from the consumption, for it is the latter that ultimately drives the former; that, in turn, can generate a reflection on what I myself consume.

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Re: ESPN AI recap of Alex Morgan’s final professional match fails to mention her

#86
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This match was broadcast by ESPN on both ESPN2 and ESPN+. In that case, they are presumably paying two knowledgeable commentators to talk about the match before, during, and after it happens, adding context and describing the important events. Are they not providing a transcript of that to the writerbot? That seems like real low-hanging fruit, especially since the commentary is already live captioned.

It's a company that see itself as "media / journalism", and having consulted for a few of those I've always been amazed that their tech teams is most often isolated from the content team with very low access to said media. It's very different from what you would expect in tech (access to everything), or just common sense in general.

Note that I have no knowledge whatsoever of how ESPN work, I'm inferring from what I've seen elsewhere.

Re: ESPN AI recap of Alex Morgan’s final professional match fails to mention her

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I know we're supposed to be shaking our fist at these stupid AIs, but why should Morgan be mentioned? Did she score any goals? Did she get much playing time? I didn't watch the game myself, but it's entirely possible she did nothing notable on the field. So is the AI really mistaken?

If you simply want to see the raw stats from a game and ignore all of the human elements you're certainly welcome to, but it's bizarre to act like that approach is or should be standard. The human drama and history aspect of sports is a huge part of the draw for most people.

Re: ESPN AI recap of Alex Morgan’s final professional match fails to mention her

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In defense of the AI - the fact that it was her last match has little relevance to the game itself. These are the emotional sprinkles, that AI often misses.(Which is to be expected from an emotionless AI)

> In defense of the AI - the fact that it was her last match has little relevance to the game itself.

Only if you view the game as a cold emotionless process where the important thing is simply the data coming out, rather than the entirely human construct it is.

Re: ESPN AI recap of Alex Morgan’s final professional match fails to mention her

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To whom was this not apparent as the most likely outcome of going down this path?

this is precisely what I would expect to hear from the echo chamber of HN where the readers are too focused on the tech than on the users of the tech. AI has been promoted as the best thing since best thing references were created. Of course people that understand the tech will know it's not really that great, but the people being sold the tech just accept the brochure as gospel and think it is amazing. Do you think…

Yes, that's part of my point, that the predictable outcome would involve this tech being sold to rubes and to people who do understand its limitations but don't care because they see short term profit in it.

Re: ESPN AI recap of Alex Morgan’s final professional match fails to mention her

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I don't think people do actually consume it. In my experience this content was purely for SEO or maybe just a headline that people read quickly to keep up-to-date. The actual article content is rarely seen by a human.

I see SEO as a make work project to support Wall Street valuations. We have SEO content being consumed by content indexing bots for traffic.

> I see SEO as a make work project to support Wall Street valuations.

You're missing the whole middle part about users and revenue. SEO alone does not a Wall Street valuation make.

Maybe the indictment here should instead be about discovery and how we share ideas and utility with one another.

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