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Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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Re: Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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Post by TheRealPomax »

It'd be nice if people stopped recommending "yet another new and exciting package manager for Windows" that you have no idea of whether you can trust it or not.

Git, Python, llvm, cmake, and curl all have perfectly normal windows installers available from their own websites, and if you're a programmer who has to, or chooses to work on Window, it's a good bet you already have either most or all of these already installed, making the job of completing your bonus objective probably one, maybe two installs at most.

Re: Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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Post by samstave »

Serious Question: With risk of being hated, this is an honest question:

I've never sought out another browser than using pretty much any of the big three...

Just because I have never had any sort of personal workflow/painpoint/interest in any of these other browsers/engines, that frankly I had never heard of and then another thing pops up every few years with yet another new one that I havent heard of -- but they all seem to have lively communities...

The question is:

What is the primary drive/utility that you/others are seeking/gaining with these none FF/chrome/edge things?

Re: Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

#83

Post by sheeshkebab »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #31
monacobolid wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For UI portion of their Mac OS version? What am I missing?

For everything. Swift is—at least in theory—a general purpose language, it's not exclusively for Apple technologies. > First off, Swift has both memory & data race safety (as of v6). It's also a modern language with solid ergonomics. > Something that matters to us a lot is OO. Web specs & browser internals tend to be highly object-oriented, and life is easier when you can model specs closely in your code. Swift has f…

Swift is useless outside of macOS/iOS dev… the thing doesn’t even have namespacing. I don’t know for what reason someone would use it outside for Apple environment.

Re: Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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Post by culi »

fabrice_d wrote: post #68
culi wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm assuming that's in reference to these tests? https://wpt.fyi/results/?label=experimental&label=master&ali... For comparison, there are 1.9 million tests Chrome passes 97.14% Edge passes 96.98 Firefox passes 95.96 Safari passes 95.22 I wonder where Ladybird stands in this

You can compare Servo and Ladybird results on wpt tests here: https://staging.wpt.fyi/results/?product=servo&product=ladyb...

Oh thanks. Seems like Servo is way ahead of LadyBird

Re: Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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Post by Emma_Goldman »

nequo wrote: post #44

I hope that this project will succeed. Incidentally, Verso is also the name of Lean 4’s DSL for typesetting documentation.[1] We are running out of words in the English language. [1] https://github.com/leanprover/verso

It's also the name of the most successful left-wing press in the English-speaking world:

https://www.versobooks.com

Re: Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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Post by amelius »

alex_duf wrote: post #70
amelius wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with these smaller webbrowsers is that you have nobody to sue if the browser turns out to leak your personal information or credentials etc. Therefore it is better to stick with browsers made by big corporations.

This is true for any software though, so if we push that reasoning to its extreme, no one should ever use any free and open source software, which I find a little bonkers.

Except browsers are more likely to leak your personal info than, say, a vector drawing program.

Re: Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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Post by factotvm »

sheeshkebab wrote: post #83
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For everything. Swift is—at least in theory—a general purpose language, it's not exclusively for Apple technologies. > First off, Swift has both memory & data race safety (as of v6). It's also a modern language with solid ergonomics. > Something that matters to us a lot is OO. Web specs & browser internals tend to be highly object-oriented, and life is easier when you can model specs closely in your code. Swift has f…

Swift is useless outside of macOS/iOS dev… the thing doesn’t even have namespacing. I don’t know for what reason someone would use it outside for Apple environment.

You can disambiguate two types with the same name from different libraries, e.g. `Factotvm.URL` and `Foundation.URL`. Do you mean something more full-featured? You are not prefixing types with three letters, if that's what you think has to be done.

I don't know if it's still the case, but there was an annoyance where you couldn't have a type with the same name as the package. But that is hardly a lack of namespaces.

Re: Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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Post by cge »

timschmidt wrote: post #6
wongarsu wrote: post #2

According to https://servo.org/about/ Servo currently passes ~60% of the web platform tests. Does anyone have experience how far that subset gets you on the open internet?

Hackernews and LWN render reasonably correctly in recent nightlies. Reddit does not.

Itappearsthatspacesdon'tworkformewhentyping,butitotherwiseseemsthatevencommentingonhnworksinVerso.Editingappearstoworkaswell,thoughlinebreaksdon't(maybebecauseofspaces...).

Edit (with Firefox): the above text is from Verso. Logging in works (though the session is not stored across restarts), as does both commenting and editing comments. Since space can't seem to be entered, word wrapping doesn't work with text entered in Verso, though it does seem to work when there is text with spaces (eg, this edit). A cursor also doesn't appear for me, making editing a challenge.

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