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Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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Re: Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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post #44

I hope that this project will succeed. Incidentally, Verso is also the name of Lean 4’s DSL for typesetting documentation.[1] We are running out of words in the English language. [1] https://github.com/leanprover/verso

There are two simple solutions to this:

1. Translate the word to another language.

2. Get creative and make up an original name. Mixed translations, word-bashing, not-actual-words, there's a lot of options!

Okay, so the latter isn't super easy but can be a lot of fun to do!

In this case, it seems like a play on the core dependency name than choosing the actual word of "verso": servo -> verso.

Re: Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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post #54

It might be the head cold I'm recovering from, but it took me about 3 passes to comprehend their tagline: > A web browser that plays old world blues to build new world hope

Sounds like a Fallout New Vegas reference to me. Or maybe it is referencing what FNV was referencing?

Re: Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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post #2

According to https://servo.org/about/ Servo currently passes ~60% of the web platform tests. Does anyone have experience how far that subset gets you on the open internet?

I'm assuming that's in reference to these tests? https://wpt.fyi/results/?label=experimental&label=master&ali...

For comparison, there are 1.9 million tests

  Chrome passes 97.14%
  Edge passes 96.98
  Firefox passes 95.96
  Safari passes 95.22
I wonder where Ladybird stands in this

Re: Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many times are they going to rewrite the site? And how can you see the Lit versus React version, is there another link for it?

There is old.reddit.com, reddit.com and new.reddit.com. new.reddit.com is not the same site as reddit.com!

TIL. new.reddit seems to be a return to old.reddit in a lot of ways. It also seems really really fast unlike the current www.reddit. If they remove some annoying ads I might even be convinced to stop using old.

Re: Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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post #5

So we will, in ~5 years time have two new browser, one in Rust and one in Swift. I hope in the process of doing it we will find new ways of doing things.

Is there a good software engineering resource about the complexity of a web engine? I mean, we all know that is complex but what are the critical areas. Performance is one, compatibility another.

Re: Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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post #57

Have a read about Servo, it is binding with SpiderMonkey as JS engine. Is there some chance, that servo decomposed from SpiderMonkey? If it is not, I don't think anyone can tell difference between firefox and other browser use Servo.

There's a lot more to a browser than the JS engine. And in general, we would want all of the browsers JS engines to be essentially the same. I think starting with an existing engine is the most logical approach

Re: Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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post #64
post #2

According to https://servo.org/about/ Servo currently passes ~60% of the web platform tests. Does anyone have experience how far that subset gets you on the open internet?

I'm assuming that's in reference to these tests? https://wpt.fyi/results/?label=experimental&label=master&ali... For comparison, there are 1.9 million tests Chrome passes 97.14% Edge passes 96.98 Firefox passes 95.96 Safari passes 95.22 I wonder where Ladybird stands in this

You can compare Servo and Ladybird results on wpt tests here: https://staging.wpt.fyi/results/?product=servo&product=ladyb...

Re: Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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post #46
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is old.reddit.com, reddit.com and new.reddit.com. new.reddit.com is not the same site as reddit.com!

new.reddit.com seems to be an older layout than just reddit.com for me, one where most stuff still works (like video embeds).

At least it is faster and seems to be less bug-y.

Re: Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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post #42
post #5

So we will, in ~5 years time have two new browser, one in Rust and one in Swift. I hope in the process of doing it we will find new ways of doing things.

The problem with these smaller webbrowsers is that you have nobody to sue if the browser turns out to leak your personal information or credentials etc. Therefore it is better to stick with browsers made by big corporations.

This is true for any software though, so if we push that reasoning to its extreme, no one should ever use any free and open source software, which I find a little bonkers.
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