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Has there been any indication from NetBlocks how they think the government is blocking internet access? I can still see subnets being announced from Bangledesh associated providers. AS 17494 AS 38592 AS 136246 AS 152304 AS 24323
There's a Crowdstrike joke in there...
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It's HDI is still well below those of other "developed" countries (0.900 and above), and despite the GDP per Capita increase, average household (EDIT: individual, not household) income is still below $6,000/yr [0] so comparable to Mexico, Thailand, and Turkiye (edit: comparable to Mexico and Turkiye, not Thailand which is at $6,000 still) In 10-15 it will become a developed country but right now it isn't. I am a big…
Fine, how about Ursula v.d. Leyen? It's not a quota system, but politicians in developed EU countries too get groomed and put in high leadership positions due to their family connections. It's more rare here since the wealthy elite tend to fund political candidates to do their bidding and not get involved into politic personally but it's the same kind of buying influence just with extra steps. >average household inco…
There absolutely is nepotism in the political sphere in every political system - but that's not what students are opposed about alone.
Basically, every government job (teacher, doctor, tax collector, bureaucrat, bus driver, etc), government funded service (college, hospital, etc), and PSU (eg. govt owned banks, energy companies, factories) will have a quota in favor of those who are the descendants of martyrs from the 1971 Liberation War.
It's the equivalent of party apparatchiks and elite in Ceceascu era Romania who had the pick of the litter for high paying civil service and public sector jobs.
This does not happen in developed countries, and in situations where biased hiring is found, you have a slam dunk corruption case.
There's a reason Leyen became a party politician and not a nameless civil servant.
> Where the hell did you get 6000 USD/year
From the Romanian government press release I linked - "The total monthly average income*) was, in nominal terms, 6634 lei per household and 2648 lei per person in quarter IV 2022."
Multiply that number by 4 (because it's quarters not month) and that the yearly average income.
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Good catch - I misread the data. Average income PER PERSON is around $6,000. Average HOUSEHOLD is around $12,000.
I still stand by my assertion though, because Mexico's average household income is around $12,000-15,000.
Can't reply to you OP (I think the flame war detector got a false positive) but yea you are right that the numbers I gave were wrong so I've added edit comments.
I don't use LLMs btw. I inherently distrust them. I just have these numbers imprinted in my mind because I have no life.
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It’s easy to encourage this when there’s nothing at stake. I personally have friends and family who are trapped and fear violent protestors as much as violent police. And when the protests die down in a few days or weeks, there will be even fewer jobs. And the attacks aren’t against the state but against the people as well.
Well obviously violence against random civilians is not justified, the target should be the state, especially leaders and security forces.
There’s certainly the core movement that is disciplined, but its very hard to control the beasts in the fringes.
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Can you name a first world country that gives out 40% of the public sector jobs to veterans or their children?
The UK House of Lords has a quota of 92 hereditary peers, descendants of Norman conquerors.
I think it's worth noting why this is happening. The country has been giving out degrees and jobs to people who instead of working and studying hard, to descendants of veterans in the country's war against pakistan, and this level of nepotism has been going on since the 70s which as you can easily imagine is not great for those who see the value in getting these "basic livelihood for hard work" things. So when people…
Important to note it wasn't just a 'war against Pakistan', but a war for independence from Pakistan [1], which also included a genocide against Bengalis by Pakistan and their allies [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_Liberation_War [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_genocide
> Pakistan's imams declared Bengali Hindu women to be "war booty”;[11][12] and Pakistani fatwa were issued legitimizing Bengali Hindu women as spoils of war.[12][13] Women who were targeted often died in Pakistani captivity or committed suicide, while others fled to India.
This is based on a non-contextual reading of Quran 4:24, Quran 8:69, Quran 23:5-6:, Quran 33:50 and various hadiths, which continue to be taken literally (when it is convenient to do so) by belligerents, hundreds of years after they were written. I refuse to cite them here because they are offensive to humanitarian/modern ethical worldviews (and because I do not wish to play a game of moral relativism).
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Because it's easier than it has ever been to be a fascist, that's why. Fascism is lives on xenophobia, ignorance, and inequality. It is aided by being able to control the flow of information and manipulate people's emotions. The last several decades of attacking wealth redistribution has created the inequality, and what we've built with social media is essentially a Fascism toolkit. AI advancements are getting better…
This isn't true on the face of it. Redistribution wouldn't be on the populist agenda if inequality didn't exist. It's like saying that anti-vax people created the disease in the first place.
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Fine, how about Ursula v.d. Leyen? It's not a quota system, but politicians in developed EU countries too get groomed and put in high leadership positions due to their family connections. It's more rare here since the wealthy elite tend to fund political candidates to do their bidding and not get involved into politic personally but it's the same kind of buying influence just with extra steps. >average household inco…
Good question! There absolutely is nepotism in the political sphere in every political system - but that's not what students are opposed about alone. Basically, every government job (teacher, doctor, tax collector, bureaucrat, bus driver, etc), government funded service (college, hospital, etc), and PSU (eg. govt owned banks, energy companies, factories) will have a quota in favor of those who are the descendants of…
Yeah it does.
>and in situations where biased hiring is found, you have a slam dunk corruption case.
Except when you don't because that's what corruption does. Should I start listing every major German and Austrian corruption scandal where nobody got punished off the top of my head?
>From the Romanian government press release I linked - The total monthly average income) was, in nominal terms, 6634 lei per household and 2648 lei per person in quarter IV 2022.*
That's not at all what that document says. It explicitly and clearly says those numbers are for monthly wages with info gathered in a quarter. Are you using a LLM for this? Because you're wrong, I show you that you're wrong, yet keep doubling down on your mistakes. Check other sources too and you'll see.
A friend of mine who works in a startup in Bangladesh tells me that critical infrastructure is being set on fire indiscriminately. Buildings such as data centers. He shared videos of many such burning buildings. The country doesn’t yet have resilient infrastructure. For example, internet and telecommunication go through a single point of failure. Last year, that building was accidentally set on fire and it led to 2 w…
The protest WAS peaceful until one protester was killed by the Police for no reason. Not sure how you are blaming the massive countrywide internet outage on the protesters. It was literally announced by the government that they were shutting everything down to control the movement.
And yes we know that internet was shut by the government, but we had a day of burning overhead optical fiber that serves as the backbone for many peoples home internet connections.
My team of network engineers was brought in by some companies to try and reroute and stabilize the country’s infrastructure before the full shut down.
And when the internet is turned back on, there are the unlucky ones such as us who have to debug the remaining issues and asses the damage of a burnt central node that all ISPs connect through.
A friend of mine who works in a startup in Bangladesh tells me that critical infrastructure is being set on fire indiscriminately. Buildings such as data centers. He shared videos of many such burning buildings. The country doesn’t yet have resilient infrastructure. For example, internet and telecommunication go through a single point of failure. Last year, that building was accidentally set on fire and it led to 2 w…
When there's no consequences for bad authoritarian behavior, you get more of it. Your plea for law and order is (probably inadvertently) a plea for the ongoing dominance of the established order. If it's peaceful only because everyone is afraid or unable to resist, then what you have is a police state. And in authoritarian societies like that, peaceful protest doesn't make any postive difference whatsoever, while often making things noticeably worse for the protesters.
Even in places like the US/UK, nonviolent protests attract violent repression and call by some people for even more violent repression. Simply passively standing against the established order is treated by some as a license to commit violence upon the protesters.
You are right about Bangladesh having a lack of capital and the costs of rebuilding, but you're basically arguing that capital matters more than the people in society. I'm sure you would never advocate just killing off/stripping the rights of some % of the population to increase the average wealth, but that's exactly what authoritarian regimes do in practice. There's always a favored in-group (sometimes described as a 'selectorate', imbued with sufficient political power to prop up the incumbent regime in exchange for policy rewards) and a disfavored out-group (the wrong ethnicity, or the wrong idea-havers, or the wrong socioeconomic class) that gets saddled with the costs. The recipe for successful authoritarians is to strip wealth from the out-group(s) fast enough to keep the in-group happy but not so fast that the out-groups decide they have nothing to lose or that their loss rate is unacceptable, causing them to react violently against the authority structure and/or the in-group that benefits from it.
Capitalistic abundance through the satisfaction of demands by enterprise and markets is a nice idea, but it is in no way guaranteed. Very often the beneficial goods and services come with negative externalities (pollution, waste, second-order effects) that do not fall on the consumer beneficiaries. Capitalists and industrialists (who are often but not always the same) frequently avoid accounting for these; where they do acknowledge the problems, they promote changing consumer behavior to mitigate the problem, recycling being the most obvious example. Sometimes this is effective, often not. The problem is that you don't have to generate positive externalities to succeed in a capitalist system; you can have a zero- or even negative-sum strategy and still win in many situations, as long as you are good at divide-and-conquer and frustrating attempts by your detractors to coordinate against you politically/economically. This is why corporations spend so much money on lobbying lawmakers and regulators, and also why branding is such a huge industry, differentiating products as much as possible while downplaying the identity of producers to minimize the appearance of oligopoly.