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Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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Re: Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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Post by mtalantikite »

jamal-kumar wrote: post #2

I think it's worth noting why this is happening. The country has been giving out degrees and jobs to people who instead of working and studying hard, to descendants of veterans in the country's war against pakistan, and this level of nepotism has been going on since the 70s which as you can easily imagine is not great for those who see the value in getting these "basic livelihood for hard work" things. So when people…

Important to note it wasn't just a 'war against Pakistan', but a war for independence from Pakistan [1], which also included a genocide against Bengalis by Pakistan and their allies [2].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_Liberation_War

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_genocide

Re: Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

rbax wrote: post #29

Has there been any indication from NetBlocks how they think the government is blocking internet access? I can still see subnets being announced from Bangledesh associated providers. AS 17494 AS 38592 AS 136246 AS 152304 AS 24323

There's a Crowdstrike joke in there...

Re: Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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Post by xeromal »

hackerlytest wrote: post #14

Some context: Students are protesting to reform the quota system. Which was abolished in 2018 after protest but recently brought back again. The Quota system basically reserves 56% of public sector jobs, i.e. 30% to relatives of war veteran. The war happened in 1971. To get public job and avail the quota, it must be their 3rd or 4th generation now. Which is plain unfair. But it’s not about that, the gov loyalists and…

Thank you for the information. I'm sorry for you and your family. Are public jobs so numerous that a lot of people survive off of them?

Re: Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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Post by TulliusCicero »

Foofoobar12345 wrote: post #36

A friend of mine who works in a startup in Bangladesh tells me that critical infrastructure is being set on fire indiscriminately. Buildings such as data centers. He shared videos of many such burning buildings. The country doesn’t yet have resilient infrastructure. For example, internet and telecommunication go through a single point of failure. Last year, that building was accidentally set on fire and it led to 2 w…

> Ideally protests should be peaceful.

Other people in the thread are saying that Bangladesh is a dictatorship, and security forces are killing people for protesting.

Just to be clear, if that's the case, violence against the state is entirely justified. There is nothing morally wrong about rebelling against autocracy, in fact, it's quite a good thing.

Re: Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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Post by xeromal »

dakiol wrote: post #8
jamal-kumar wrote: post #2

I think it's worth noting why this is happening. The country has been giving out degrees and jobs to people who instead of working and studying hard, to descendants of veterans in the country's war against pakistan, and this level of nepotism has been going on since the 70s which as you can easily imagine is not great for those who see the value in getting these "basic livelihood for hard work" things. So when people…

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Can you name a first world country that gives out 40% of the public sector jobs to veterans or their children?

Re: Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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Post by Foofoobar12345 »

TulliusCicero wrote: post #46
Foofoobar12345 wrote: post #36

A friend of mine who works in a startup in Bangladesh tells me that critical infrastructure is being set on fire indiscriminately. Buildings such as data centers. He shared videos of many such burning buildings. The country doesn’t yet have resilient infrastructure. For example, internet and telecommunication go through a single point of failure. Last year, that building was accidentally set on fire and it led to 2 w…

> Ideally protests should be peaceful. Other people in the thread are saying that Bangladesh is a dictatorship, and security forces are killing people for protesting. Just to be clear, if that's the case, violence against the state is entirely justified. There is nothing morally wrong about rebelling against autocracy, in fact, it's quite a good thing.

It’s easy to encourage this when there’s nothing at stake. I personally have friends and family who are trapped and fear violent protestors as much as violent police.

And when the protests die down in a few days or weeks, there will be even fewer jobs. And the attacks aren’t against the state but against the people as well.

Re: Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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Post by jheidemann »

fragmede wrote: post #28

looking at https://outage.ant.isi.edu/ it seems Europe is having a bad day too

In https://outage.ant.isi.edu, one should look at the circle colors, not just sizes. Circle colors indicate the fraction of networks (technically: /24 IPv4 newtork prefixes) that are down, and in Bangladesh, the hard red means nearly 100% are unreachable.

While Europe has many circles and therefore some networks are down, because they are blue that means it's only a few that are unreachable. Europe has many, many networks.

Re: Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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Post by throwaway5752 »

xyst wrote: post #35

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Because it's easier than it has ever been to be a fascist, that's why.

Fascism is lives on xenophobia, ignorance, and inequality. It is aided by being able to control the flow of information and manipulate people's emotions.

The last several decades of attacking wealth redistribution has created the inequality, and what we've built with social media is essentially a Fascism toolkit. AI advancements are getting better and better about keeping people angry and irrational. All it takes is the backing of several smart, sociopathic wealthy people and the right figurehead; most people are more amoral than they'd admit and will go with the flow.

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