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Xbox will block third-party controllers to "preserve the console experience"

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Re: Xbox will block third-party controllers to "preserve the console experience"

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Post by dizzi90 »

TMWNN wrote: post #56
AustinDev wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are most definitely doing this to combat cheaters. I tried out Cronus + KBM on my friend's Xbox S and it was comical. I had aim assist, no recoil and a keyboard and mouse. I was running 100:3 K:D on COD:MW2. If you don't think cheating is a big part of the reason you've never played console games competitively.

>They are most definitely doing this to combat cheaters. I tried out Cronus + KBM on my friend's Xbox S and it was comical. I have sold a half-dozen Cronus Zen adapters in person via Craigslist/OfferUp. Every single buyer claimed that it was for a friend, brother, etc.

> I have sold a half-dozen Cronus Zen adapters

Don't do that, please. Sell drugs or something, less damaging to society.

Re: Xbox will block third-party controllers to "preserve the console experience"

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Post by rootlocus »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #79
AustinDev wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are most definitely doing this to combat cheaters. I tried out Cronus + KBM on my friend's Xbox S and it was comical. I had aim assist, no recoil and a keyboard and mouse. I was running 100:3 K:D on COD:MW2. If you don't think cheating is a big part of the reason you've never played console games competitively.

That's the problem though: pampering to competitive gamers ruins the experience for the vast majority of people, who just want to, you know, enjoy a game . Unfortunately, competitive gamers are the only ones that matter - they're the cash cows of this part of the industry, which now focuses on creating as many such players as they can, and milking them for all they're worth. Consider how cheating was handled back bef…

This reminds me of Wildstar. The MMO was intentionally dedicated to hardcore players, making progression nearly impossible for casuals. They were pretty smug about it as I recall. It eventually died, as there weren't enough players paying micro-transactions to keep the servers online.

Re: Xbox will block third-party controllers to "preserve the console experience"

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Post by RyanHamilton »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #79
AustinDev wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are most definitely doing this to combat cheaters. I tried out Cronus + KBM on my friend's Xbox S and it was comical. I had aim assist, no recoil and a keyboard and mouse. I was running 100:3 K:D on COD:MW2. If you don't think cheating is a big part of the reason you've never played console games competitively.

That's the problem though: pampering to competitive gamers ruins the experience for the vast majority of people, who just want to, you know, enjoy a game . Unfortunately, competitive gamers are the only ones that matter - they're the cash cows of this part of the industry, which now focuses on creating as many such players as they can, and milking them for all they're worth. Consider how cheating was handled back bef…

Wow you've captured well the feelings I have looking at modern gaming very well. In the 2000s I played on servers and chatted with people for weeks, over time we learnt how each other played and formed cooperative teams and had our own in jokes. Kind of like HN. Your description of "modern gaming" to get up a global ladder highlights the near equivalence of social media firms, facebook etc. with their likes, fllowers and doom scrolling. It makes me slightly sad if kids don't have those communities today.

Re: Xbox will block third-party controllers to "preserve the console experience"

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Post by 0xAFFFF »

qalmakka wrote: post #80

> players have been encountering error “0x82d60002” OT: Microsoft should be banned by decree from showing naked error codes to people, I've been fighting them for decades now

This. Serving cryptic error codes over issues that do have a proper wording is a big no.

Re: Xbox will block third-party controllers to "preserve the console experience"

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Post by RobotToaster »

serf wrote: post #74

This is a money grab with the polish of a pro-gamer cheat-cleanup. Why do I say that? Microsoft can fix most of the 'cheats' that a software controller can implement in software. Auto-fire is trivial to detect, as is a KBM setup where it doesn't belong. Out of the ordinary joystick characteristics/speed/hysteresis/range would make it obvious to them which controllers are aftermarket if they cared to disallow them aft…

And someone in China will no doubt find a way to make their controllers be detected as official, if they haven't already.

Re: Xbox will block third-party controllers to "preserve the console experience"

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Post by mschuster91 »

qalmakka wrote: post #80

> players have been encountering error “0x82d60002” OT: Microsoft should be banned by decree from showing naked error codes to people, I've been fighting them for decades now

At least you can google for the error code, instead of having to search for a textual phrase and wade through countless pages of not-at-all-related crap.

Re: Xbox will block third-party controllers to "preserve the console experience"

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Post by tumult »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #21
hirvi74 wrote: post #17

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And more importantly, all the money goes to Microsoft.

I would bet that the Xbox Accessibility controller will never be profitable for Microsoft

It doesn't have to be profitable for them. It can just exist, be the only option, and prevent others from making a competitive or superior product, forcing others out of the business.

Re: Xbox will block third-party controllers to "preserve the console experience"

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Post by RobotToaster »

harry8 wrote: post #52
wernercd wrote: post #49

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or join with the authorities to maintain law and order. You spin it as "cartel" but why can't it be spun as Law & Order? Or do you think that cheaters should have unrestricted control and the ability to destroy the economy of any given game? You think people will play on platforms that aren't working to keep things even? This is the same argument for P2W games where you can just pay to be the best. A few people will…

> why can't it be spun as Law & Order Law & Order is neither profit making nor competition destroying.

> Law & Order is neither profit making

My sweet summer child

Re: Xbox will block third-party controllers to "preserve the console experience"

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

gnabgib wrote: post #11

Also: "Xbox's new policy – say goodbye to unofficial accessories from November" (79 points, 79 comments, 17 hours ago)[0], "Xbox is ending support for unauthorized controllers" (3 points) [1], "Microsoft May Drop Support for 'Unauthorized' Xbox Controllers, Accessories" (2 points), "Microsoft Appears to Block Unofficial Third-Party Accessories on Xbox" (1 point)[3], "Microsoft is cracking down on unofficial Xbox gear…

What doublespeak! "Ending support" really means "blocking competitors"?
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