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Framework 13 AMD 7040 Series: A Developer's First Impressions

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Re: Framework 13 AMD 7040 Series: A Developer's First Impressions

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Post by hypercube33 »

bubblethink wrote: post #61
nrp wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As the original poster noted, this seems to be an interaction between the specific access point or router and the AMD RZ616 driver, and not something that other users are seeing on their home networks. The RZ616 is AMD's rebrand of MediaTek MT7921K. Mediatek does have a dedicated team working on Linux drivers, but we haven't seen their or AMD's plans: https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/mediatek All of…

Do Intel or AMD forbid you from mixing and matching wifi cards ? Why the unnecessary fragmentation ?

iirc Intel has a line of cards that only work on their CPU lines and otherwise, Intel seems to have soft blocked their compatible cards from OEMs - we can't get AMD laptops with Intel nics anymore where I work from all vendors.

Otherwise nope - I run Intel ax cards in all of my laptops (HP, Lenovo, Acer, Asus, surface laptop 4 -- came with Intel) and they are solid in windows and Linux.

Re: Framework 13 AMD 7040 Series: A Developer's First Impressions

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Post by bobthecowboy »

semiquaver wrote: post #54
chx wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet every time I post running Linux on a modern laptop as a daily driver is not a good idea I get heavily downvoted.

Complaining about downvotes is a downvotable offense :) (FWIW I agree with you, Linux on laptops is a recipe for pain)

I've been running my 12th Gen Intel Framework for just over a year (since I got it) with Linux (KDE Neon). Bluetooth, expansion cards, thunderbolt, wifi - literally no issues. I haven't even had to fiddle with it. I use it all day for work (software engineering - lots of VM's and browser tabs) and all evening for Minecraft and movies. When I'm at my desk at home it's plugged in to a Thunderbolt 4 dock driving two monitors and getting Gigabit network speed.

Before that I had a brand new Dell XPS 13, which again I had for a little over a year, running KDE Neon. It wasn't used for work as much, but again it worked perfectly fine, including the touch screen I didn't even want on it (okay- a major issue was the battery life, which was atrocious).

Neither of these even came with Linux installed.

Re: Framework 13 AMD 7040 Series: A Developer's First Impressions

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Post by heavyset_go »

hypercube33 wrote: post #81
bubblethink wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do Intel or AMD forbid you from mixing and matching wifi cards ? Why the unnecessary fragmentation ?

iirc Intel has a line of cards that only work on their CPU lines and otherwise, Intel seems to have soft blocked their compatible cards from OEMs - we can't get AMD laptops with Intel nics anymore where I work from all vendors. Otherwise nope - I run Intel ax cards in all of my laptops (HP, Lenovo, Acer, Asus, surface laptop 4 -- came with Intel) and they are solid in windows and Linux.

> Intel has a line of cards that only work on their CPU lines

Intel sells CNVi versions of their WiFi module lineups that only work on chipsets that support it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNVi

Re: Framework 13 AMD 7040 Series: A Developer's First Impressions

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Post by Zardoz84 »

> I noticed Slack was incredibly fuzzy…. it doesn’t use Wayland.

People should stop using that crappy Electron Apps, that does exactly the same thing that opening a webapp page on a tab of your browser. Seriously, you are wasting RAM and CPU (and battery) doing that. And this it's totally independent of you using Windows, OSX, Linux, BSD...

I use Slack and Discord from the web browser, and I don't have any issues. Also, I get fro free, better support of that webapps running in Wayland

Re: Framework 13 AMD 7040 Series: A Developer's First Impressions

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Post by [deleted] »

sva_ wrote: post #11

I wonder what kind of battery-life Framework users get? I've recently gotten an Elitebook 845 G10 which runs on a Ryzen 7 Pro 7840HS, and battery life was at first shit. The issue was with the BIOS being bugged and not allowing ASPM. After manually activating, I now get around 12-15 hours on a 50Wh battery, depending on use of course. Results still preliminary though, more testing needs to be done. Btw, I chose the E…

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Re: Framework 13 AMD 7040 Series: A Developer's First Impressions

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Post by whazor »

nrp wrote: post #39

I'm happy to help answer questions folks have on the product. We (without intending to) ended up being among the first to ship a Ryzen 7040 U-series laptop, which means Linux support is early and depends on having the right kernel version. As others have noted in the comments, we were in a similar place when we were one of the earlier ones on both 12th Gen Intel Core and 13th Gen Intel Core, and both matured rapidly.…

Do you have plans for automating the BIOS updates?

At the moment, my Intel 12th gen mainboard BIOS has several vulnerabilities and many people are waiting for updates.

In a couple of years, you will have to support even more mainboards and I hope you are working on software infrastructure to properly support that.

Re: Framework 13 AMD 7040 Series: A Developer's First Impressions

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Post by gigatexal »

I couldn’t finish the blog post. It came off as too much of a rant and a bit whiney. Linux != macOS or Windows. Gestures, and all this fancy stuff about fingerprint readers etc do not apply. I guess I’m lucky my thinkpad’s fingerprint reader works.

Anyway I’m looking forward to evaluating this laptop vs a similar AMD thinkpad as I’m in the market. I run i3 and will move to sway when I fully transition things to Wayland. Multitouch trackpads and the mouse in general is something I avoid as much as possible.

Also re the blog: the full screen modal to sign up to the mailing list before the article was presented is highly hostile to readers and screams desperation. If I like a blog I will read a few posts and then either bookmark it or add it to my rss reader if it has one. I won’t be returning to this blog though.

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