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Re: Screenshots from Windows 95

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Post by AshamedCaptain » Fri, Oct 13, 2023, 6:32 PM UTC

chungy wrote: post #72

crazygringo wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was in an upgraded version of Windows 95. Not the original: > CD Player was included in Windows 98, Windows NT 3.51, Windows NT 4.0 and Windows 2000 (as Deluxe CD Player). The program was also made available as part of an upgrade for Windows 95. https://microsoft.fandom.com/wiki/CD_Player

That wiki is wrong. (First off, NT 3.51 came out four months before 95, it'd make no sense as an argument that the CD player was too new for 95, yet included in NT 3.51) The Windows 95 release-to-manufacture disc, files dated 1995-07-11, the /WIN95/WIN95_14.CAB file: $ cabextract -s -l -F cdp\* win95_14.cab Viewing cabinet: win95_14.cab File size | Date Time | Name -----------+---------------------+------------- 643…

https://web.archive.org/web/20051214182952/http://support.mi...

Note that I _never_ saw 95 as a CD in retail. I actually took a trip to the US when it was released to search for it, since I got confirmation from my local MS that it was not in EU. Several people do ensure me that there was a retail CD version, but I have never seen it in person myself. I have seen plenty of OEM discs, though.

Re: Screenshots from Windows 95

#82

Post by AshamedCaptain » Fri, Oct 13, 2023, 6:34 PM UTC

chungy wrote: post #54

AshamedCaptain wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Double clicking opens the date & time preferences (which already has a screenshot), not a calendar program. 9x did not ship with a clock or calendar program unless you upgraded from 3.x. The article mentions the clock in the taskbar explicitly. And unlike 98, 95 doesn't have a separate logout screen; it is always just another entry in the regular shutdown screen. The only glaring omission I see is the CD player, but…

I don't even think the CD Player is an optional component, my Windows 95 VM doesn't have it in the Add/Remove Programs dialog. It's just there.

It's right there in Multimedia section.

The minimal install of 95 is ridiculously small. 3.x practically fits in 10MiB of disk space.; they could not just multiply it by 10x and call it a day.

Re: Screenshots from Windows 95

#83

Post by chungy » Fri, Oct 13, 2023, 7:34 PM UTC

AshamedCaptain wrote: post #81

chungy wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That wiki is wrong. (First off, NT 3.51 came out four months before 95, it'd make no sense as an argument that the CD player was too new for 95, yet included in NT 3.51) The Windows 95 release-to-manufacture disc, files dated 1995-07-11, the /WIN95/WIN95_14.CAB file: $ cabextract -s -l -F cdp\* win95_14.cab Viewing cabinet: win95_14.cab File size | Date Time | Name -----------+---------------------+------------- 643…

https://web.archive.org/web/20051214182952/http://support.mi... Note that I _never_ saw 95 as a CD in retail. I actually took a trip to the US when it was released to search for it, since I got confirmation from my local MS that it was not in EU. Several people do ensure me that there was a retail CD version, but I have never seen it in person myself. I have seen plenty of OEM discs, though.

In the US, the floppy version was very uncommon. I didn't even know it existed for a few years, until I encountered someone that had it.

Re: Screenshots from Windows 95

#84

Post by butlike » Fri, Oct 13, 2023, 8:13 PM UTC

chungy wrote: post #54

AshamedCaptain wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Double clicking opens the date & time preferences (which already has a screenshot), not a calendar program. 9x did not ship with a clock or calendar program unless you upgraded from 3.x. The article mentions the clock in the taskbar explicitly. And unlike 98, 95 doesn't have a separate logout screen; it is always just another entry in the regular shutdown screen. The only glaring omission I see is the CD player, but…

I don't even think the CD Player is an optional component, my Windows 95 VM doesn't have it in the Add/Remove Programs dialog. It's just there.

Can I ask how you installed 95 on a VM. I've been trying for a few days but the installer errors out because of `VGA.DRV`. Dunno if it's a problem with my particular iso, but I'm using VM Ware Fusion

Re: Screenshots from Windows 95

#85

Post by crazygringo » Wed, Oct 18, 2023, 2:18 PM UTC

AshamedCaptain wrote: post #81

chungy wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That wiki is wrong. (First off, NT 3.51 came out four months before 95, it'd make no sense as an argument that the CD player was too new for 95, yet included in NT 3.51) The Windows 95 release-to-manufacture disc, files dated 1995-07-11, the /WIN95/WIN95_14.CAB file: $ cabextract -s -l -F cdp\* win95_14.cab Viewing cabinet: win95_14.cab File size | Date Time | Name -----------+---------------------+------------- 643…

https://web.archive.org/web/20051214182952/http://support.mi... Note that I _never_ saw 95 as a CD in retail. I actually took a trip to the US when it was released to search for it, since I got confirmation from my local MS that it was not in EU. Several people do ensure me that there was a retail CD version, but I have never seen it in person myself. I have seen plenty of OEM discs, though.

Ah ha. Mystery solved, thank you!

Turns out everybody's half-right. :)