It would have been more exciting with a video out port like NTSC/PAL or VGA.
The Nano ESP32
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Re: The Nano ESP32
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because the difference between $20 and $4 is nothing if you're prototyping for a real product and you may prefer to have business partners in Europe. Many companies easily drop a $10,000+ premium for a prototyping kit every day of the week to get support from a preferred vendor. If you give one employee making 150k/yr a 10% productivity boost, you're saving money. Prototyping cost is often mostly labor. Unit cost doe…
Are Aruinos really aimed at the professional prototyping market? I’ve always had the impression they are aimed at students and hobbyists. These two groups are generally more price sensitive but do also value ease of use. For these non-professional groups, what are the benefits of a $20 Arduino ESP32 vs. one of the many $4 ones?
You (usually) don't use an Arduino in production, you take the ATMEGA chip, or in this case an ESP32 and you make your own custom board from it.
Re: The Nano ESP32
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because the difference between $20 and $4 is nothing if you're prototyping for a real product and you may prefer to have business partners in Europe. Many companies easily drop a $10,000+ premium for a prototyping kit every day of the week to get support from a preferred vendor. If you give one employee making 150k/yr a 10% productivity boost, you're saving money. Prototyping cost is often mostly labor. Unit cost doe…
Today I learned prototyping on an Arduino makes my product more real
You misunderstood what he was saying.
Re: The Nano ESP32
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because the difference between $20 and $4 is nothing if you're prototyping for a real product and you may prefer to have business partners in Europe. Many companies easily drop a $10,000+ premium for a prototyping kit every day of the week to get support from a preferred vendor. If you give one employee making 150k/yr a 10% productivity boost, you're saving money. Prototyping cost is often mostly labor. Unit cost doe…
Today I learned prototyping on an Arduino makes my product more real
Allow me to rephrase: If you are prototyping for mass production, $16 is probably a rounding error in your prototyping costs.
Re: The Nano ESP32
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because the difference between $20 and $4 is nothing if you're prototyping for a real product and you may prefer to have business partners in Europe. Many companies easily drop a $10,000+ premium for a prototyping kit every day of the week to get support from a preferred vendor. If you give one employee making 150k/yr a 10% productivity boost, you're saving money. Prototyping cost is often mostly labor. Unit cost doe…
So, again, what's the benefit? Support and documentation?
I haven't dealt with Arduino the company, but even for two entirely identical products, there may be reasons why someone would choose one vendor over another. It really depends on the purchaser's specific priorities and requirements. A significant benefit could even be something a simple as "they have the same business hours"
Re: The Nano ESP32
#863.3V IO, boring. -3-
ESPs are pretty tolerant of 5v on IO, just need 3.3 supply.
Re: The Nano ESP32
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are Aruinos really aimed at the professional prototyping market? I’ve always had the impression they are aimed at students and hobbyists. These two groups are generally more price sensitive but do also value ease of use. For these non-professional groups, what are the benefits of a $20 Arduino ESP32 vs. one of the many $4 ones?
You (usually) don't use an Arduino in production, you take the ATMEGA chip, or in this case an ESP32 and you make your own custom board from it.
This doesn't answer the question: which industry professionals prototype their embedded products using an Arduino?
Re: The Nano ESP32
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just for prototyping ease tbh. You would always make a custom board for an actual mass appeal product. If it's not a mass made product why do you care? Pick the easiest one regardless of cost. This is essentially a dev kit. With the ability to easily mess with it. You don't care about the cost here because it's not really an expense when amortized.
I think they're asking, why would you spend $20+ on a board like this when something like a Lolin S2 Mini[1] is $4? There are millions of ESP32s out there... What makes one from Arduino™ any better? 1. https://a.aliexpress.com/_mspsSKa
It has 4 times the amount of flash, comes with Arduino Cloud, has a wide range power supply, has the Nano form factor and buying it supports Arduino.
For professional prototyping I always buy Arduino, for home use the cheaper variants are fine too.
Re: The Nano ESP32
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because the difference between $20 and $4 is nothing if you're prototyping for a real product and you may prefer to have business partners in Europe. Many companies easily drop a $10,000+ premium for a prototyping kit every day of the week to get support from a preferred vendor. If you give one employee making 150k/yr a 10% productivity boost, you're saving money. Prototyping cost is often mostly labor. Unit cost doe…
Are Aruinos really aimed at the professional prototyping market? I’ve always had the impression they are aimed at students and hobbyists. These two groups are generally more price sensitive but do also value ease of use. For these non-professional groups, what are the benefits of a $20 Arduino ESP32 vs. one of the many $4 ones?
People use arduinos in real professional prototypes, yes. Some prototypes are held together with pieces of string inside.
Edit: if you want an example industry, the one I can remember is a bean to cup coffee machine. I guess having multiple small systems that need controlling in consumer appliances is a good fit for something like an Arduino
Re: The Nano ESP32
#90Looking at how much our school had to pay for Amstrad PC1512 computers, all the ongoing discussion about Nano ESP32 price feels like a joke.
You really think that paying $20 for something more powerfull than a PC1512, which when considering inflation, would cost $1722 in todays money, is really being robbed?!?
Really, what a wonderfull thing that for $20 I can get something more powerful than what I used to play Defenders of the Crown on, and it fits on the pocket.