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A.I. imagery may destroy history as we know it

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Re: A.I. imagery may destroy history as we know it

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Post by ericd »

mattlondon wrote: post #70

Meh - I don't know. At least in the UK, "History" classes at school were less about memorising the facts, and more about questioning the who, what, why of some source of information. One thing that stands out in my memory is multiple different teachers always drilling into us: "never trust photos" (you don't always know who took them, for what reason, and if they were real or staged or whatever) If 12 year old kids a…

Your history classes sound a lot more useful than the ones I sat through in the US - ours was mostly delivered as a set of settled fact.

Re: A.I. imagery may destroy history as we know it

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Post by VaiDeN »

tivert wrote: post #47
VaiDeN wrote: post #5

Some people feel threatened by AI because it makes their skills or creations seem outdated, and they blame AI for their problems. They see AI as the enemy. It's hard for them to accept, but AI is here to stay. Eventually, they will have to come to terms with it. Once they let go of their pride and stop focusing on the wrong things, everyone will realize the incredible benefits AI can offer humanity. It's worrisome th…

> Once they let go of their pride and stop focusing on the wrong things, everyone will realize the incredible benefits AI can offer humanity. It's worrisome that some individuals would rather hold onto their own importance than embrace the potential of AI to help everyone. This mindset is unfortunate. Yeah, people. Let go of your pride, come to terms with your newfound uselessness, and accept your newfound poverty li…

People should believe in themselves because they will always be useful. Many jobs will go away, but new ones will appear. The key is to work with AI, not against it. Everyone must start working together with AI to find their place in the future world.

Re: A.I. imagery may destroy history as we know it

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Post by dclowd9901 »

pimlottc wrote: post #34
lofaszvanitt wrote: post #17

This can be easily fixed by camera creators.

How is that going to help for existing historical photos?

Nailed it. How companies line canon and Nikon haven’t jumped on this already is absolutely mind blowing.

Re: A.I. imagery may destroy history as we know it

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Post by dclowd9901 »

rickdeckard wrote: post #41
soco wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And then comes Google Photos and applies a filter, goodbye signature (in this case, the phone's). Or I have an old-fashioned film camera... I guess this idea would work only with DSLRs, which aren't that popular anymore nowadays thus we won't solve that much of the original problem.

It wouldn't even work with DSLRs, as barely any image taken is used without tuning parameters or retouching. If a digital signature would stay valid after retouching, there's no value in having it in the first place. If the picture would be re-signed on editing, what's the purpose of that signature...?

Pictures are used in a million ways that would make them lose the digital signature. The point is having an original that is verifiable so if it’s ever called into question, there’s evidence of truth.

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Post by dclowd9901 »

Retr0id wrote: post #68
mmoskal wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Digital signatures on photos, with each camera certificate signed by the manufacturer. Not sure why they don't do it at scale yet.

This is trivially broken by taking a picture of a high enough resolution screen, or printout.

That’s why it needs more than just time stamp. GPS would be important too.

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Post by mensetmanusman »

dclowd9901 wrote: post #85
Retr0id wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is trivially broken by taking a picture of a high enough resolution screen, or printout.

That’s why it needs more than just time stamp. GPS would be important too.

GPS spoofing is pretty cheap these days for a single device in a faraday cage.

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Post by hospitalJail »

ericd wrote: post #81
mattlondon wrote: post #70

Meh - I don't know. At least in the UK, "History" classes at school were less about memorising the facts, and more about questioning the who, what, why of some source of information. One thing that stands out in my memory is multiple different teachers always drilling into us: "never trust photos" (you don't always know who took them, for what reason, and if they were real or staged or whatever) If 12 year old kids a…

Your history classes sound a lot more useful than the ones I sat through in the US - ours was mostly delivered as a set of settled fact.

There is a local school that is dedicating 90 minutes to math and 90 minutes to english. Splitting science and history to a mere 45 minutes each.

I completely support this. Science prior to college was basically a waste. History was full of bias and axes to grind.

Don't get me wrong, teach these subjects, the scientific method is great. However, the value is low compared to the tools given in Math and English.

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