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Magnet-hashes for all torrents on The Pirate Bay: 164 MB

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Re: Magnet-hashes for all torrents on The Pirate Bay: 164 MB

#82

Hello, I am an author of the scrape. I did it more to try it, but who knows, maybe it will be useful to someone. I went trough the description pages like http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/$i by increasing the $i and saving the magnet if pirate bay didn't return 404 error. I went trough the pages as unlogged user, though, so that might be the reason why I got only 1.5m torrents. I didn't know pirate bay has hidden porn t…

The porn torrents are only hidden from naive searchers; all the pages for them are still accessible if you've got a direct link to them, so your scraper should've picked all of them up.

Re: Magnet-hashes for all torrents on The Pirate Bay: 164 MB

#83
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sorry if i'm being daft, but can't you get this down to a magnet link itself? THe page linked does just that: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:938802790a385c49307f34cca4c30f80b03df59c&dn=The+whole+Pirate+Bay+magnet+archive&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.publicbt.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.ccc.de%3A80 but wikipedia has an example of a magnet link like this: magnet:?xt=urn:sha1:YNCKHTQCWB…

Hi, would you mind editing your post to remove the really really long string of text? It's breaking the page.

sorry, I saw your post past the edit window. Any mod can feel free to do as the parent suggests, it's ok by me.

if you know who to mail who can do that go ahead

Re: Magnet-hashes for all torrents on The Pirate Bay: 164 MB

#84

sorry if i'm being daft, but can't you get this down to a magnet link itself? THe page linked does just that: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:938802790a385c49307f34cca4c30f80b03df59c&dn=The+whole+Pirate+Bay+magnet+archive&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.publicbt.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.ccc.de%3A80 but wikipedia has an example of a magnet link like this: magnet:?xt=urn:sha1:YNCKHTQCWB…

The magnets in the archive are already just the hashes to make it smaller.

right but if that's "all of the pirate bay" why does it stop being so after one additional level of indirection, being likewise "just the hash to make it smaller"?

If we accept that the linked file is "all of the pirate bay" than isn't my comment just as equally "all of the pirate bay"? Haven't I just included "all of the pirate bay" in my comment?

Re: Magnet-hashes for all torrents on The Pirate Bay: 164 MB

#86

This gets very meta very quickly. If linking to copyrighted data 'should' be illegal (SOPA), then what about descriptions of that data that are sufficient to identify the original, but not reconstruct it (magnet links)? And if those were made illegal, then what about descriptions of those descriptions? You can recurse infinitely on this. Beyond mere amusement, after just one or two recursions, you get to the point wh…

You're thinking about it the wrong way. From a programmer's POV, the link to the torrent can be abstracted endlessly into new and distinct forms, each of which you believe needs to be legislated away in turn. From a lawyer's point of view, the specifics are really not important, but rather the end result: is the user illegally procuring copyrighted material, or is the distributor providing them with a readily accessi…

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Re: Magnet-hashes for all torrents on The Pirate Bay: 164 MB

#87

This gets very meta very quickly. If linking to copyrighted data 'should' be illegal (SOPA), then what about descriptions of that data that are sufficient to identify the original, but not reconstruct it (magnet links)? And if those were made illegal, then what about descriptions of those descriptions? You can recurse infinitely on this. Beyond mere amusement, after just one or two recursions, you get to the point wh…

Lawmakers can easily avoid this meta situation by writing simpler more encompassing laws.So rather than being specific about how the pirated material is accessed they can write a more open law along the lines of "a site that's main use is assisting the distribution of pirated material".

Re: Magnet-hashes for all torrents on The Pirate Bay: 164 MB

#89
post #11

This gets very meta very quickly. If linking to copyrighted data 'should' be illegal (SOPA), then what about descriptions of that data that are sufficient to identify the original, but not reconstruct it (magnet links)? And if those were made illegal, then what about descriptions of those descriptions? You can recurse infinitely on this. Beyond mere amusement, after just one or two recursions, you get to the point wh…

That's what this is already, eh? A description of copyrighted data would be the torrent file, which content producers would probably like to argue are infringing. A magnet link is a hash of the torrent file, so it's already two steps removed. Of course, the Pirate Bay magnet dump is itself a torrent, so it's a hash of a hash of a hash of copyrighted data. And that torrent itself has a magnet link: 938802790a385c49307…

> ... but that's probably an intractable cryptographic process.

Not always.

Algorithms that append a hash to a file, preserving the same hash, i.e.

  hash(s) == hash(s ++ hash(s))
http://stackoverflow.com/q/4823680/12048

A program that prints (though does not contain) a hash of itself:

http://www.madore.org/~david/computers/quine.html

(edited for formatting)

Re: Magnet-hashes for all torrents on The Pirate Bay: 164 MB

#90

Maybe I'm being a bit black-and-white on this, but while the meta and the philosophy is interesting to talk about, no one is mentioning the morality. Stealing is wrong. You're taking someone else's work and not compensating them for it. I think it's sad that we're all so worried about the law when, in reality, you shouldn't pirate music for the same reason you don't steal a candy bar from the grocery store or snag 5…

I'm getting a bit sick of the 'piracy is theft' nonsense. It isn't. Nobody is deprived of their possession. Me copying your song doesn't result in you no longer having a song. Piracy is far closer to plagiarism, but even then only to a point. In plagiarism, one attempts to pass off the work of another as one's own. In piracy, one simply copies another's work for one's own use. They are fundamentally different. This i…

Piracy is sharing and most kids (I was anyway) are taught at a young age that sharing is caring. Maybe we need to now teach kids that sharing is piracy and will land you with huge fines. Next time a kid gives her friend some chocolate, we better lock her up before she starts infringing our rights!
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