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Canada is seeing violent crime like never before. What's behind the crime wave

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Re: Canada is seeing violent crime like never before. What's behind the crime wave

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30 years of cuts to social safety nets, and life becoming affordable will do that. When as a country we prefer funding more policing, and less on affordable housing, healthcare, and education, we end up with a crisis like this. The fact that people act surprised is mind boggling. People have been warning about this for decades. I fear that this is only the start of a worsening trend.

This is demonstrably not true. Look at new york. They bring in broken window policing and do it passably well and things turn around in a decade. They then stop enforcing the law and move to a more laid back, defund the police style and things turn back towards trending to crap again. The other stuff you mentioned matters but the biggest thing is effective policing of all crime.

Re: Canada is seeing violent crime like never before. What's behind the crime wave

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"Bob Lee story" ? I missed that one.

He was stabbed in San Francisco. Everyone and their mother complained about the crime and homeless problems there and blamed the "progressive policies" for his death. Musk too chimed in obviously... Turns out the main suspect is another tech guy who probably did that. Not a homeless criminal and not fault of these "progressive policies". Crickets, no one walks back all the terrible things they said.

Turns out sf is totally safe and doesnt have a homeless or crime problem at all

Re: Canada is seeing violent crime like never before. What's behind the crime wave

#83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was stabbed in San Francisco. Everyone and their mother complained about the crime and homeless problems there and blamed the "progressive policies" for his death. Musk too chimed in obviously... Turns out the main suspect is another tech guy who probably did that. Not a homeless criminal and not fault of these "progressive policies". Crickets, no one walks back all the terrible things they said.

Turns out sf is totally safe and doesnt have a homeless or crime problem at all

Not what I said. The fact that you would choose to make a straw-man argument instead of a proper debate speaks volumes.

The fact is a person was stabbed to death and was begging people for help. Why didn't they help? Maybe because people pushed it into their head that it's all crime and that we shouldn't help strangers. Yes. Homeless people in SF are sometimes scary as hell, I know and I don't blame the people who didn't help. But adults discuss facts and reach conclusions based on factual detail. Not based on fitting into ones political narrative.

Re: Canada is seeing violent crime like never before. What's behind the crime wave

#84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was stabbed in San Francisco. Everyone and their mother complained about the crime and homeless problems there and blamed the "progressive policies" for his death. Musk too chimed in obviously... Turns out the main suspect is another tech guy who probably did that. Not a homeless criminal and not fault of these "progressive policies". Crickets, no one walks back all the terrible things they said.

Turns out sf is totally safe and doesnt have a homeless or crime problem at all

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Re: Canada is seeing violent crime like never before. What's behind the crime wave

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Turns out sf is totally safe and doesnt have a homeless or crime problem at all

Not what I said. The fact that you would choose to make a straw-man argument instead of a proper debate speaks volumes. The fact is a person was stabbed to death and was begging people for help. Why didn't they help? Maybe because people pushed it into their head that it's all crime and that we shouldn't help strangers. Yes. Homeless people in SF are sometimes scary as hell, I know and I don't blame the people who di…

The straw-man here is you cherry picking the San Francisco Bob story to refute the problem of a rise in crime in Canada

Re: Canada is seeing violent crime like never before. What's behind the crime wave

#86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not what I said. The fact that you would choose to make a straw-man argument instead of a proper debate speaks volumes. The fact is a person was stabbed to death and was begging people for help. Why didn't they help? Maybe because people pushed it into their head that it's all crime and that we shouldn't help strangers. Yes. Homeless people in SF are sometimes scary as hell, I know and I don't blame the people who di…

The straw-man here is you cherry picking the San Francisco Bob story to refute the problem of a rise in crime in Canada

Where did I proclaim it refuted that?

Re: Canada is seeing violent crime like never before. What's behind the crime wave

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Agree. In Canada,we basically have media that is universally anti-Trudeau (National Post, Toronto Sun) and media that is universally pro Trudeau (CBC, CTV, Global news, Toronto Star).

Global is owned by Corus, the same company that owns all of right wing talk radio. It is not firmly right-wing like the a postmedia group, but also not firmly pro-Trudeau. And while the Star has historically had a stron left-wing bias, it is starting to drift to center under its new conservative ownership. As for the CBC, while they're quite progressive, they bog down their political coverage under so much boring tri…

Yes. These are just brands - like Ben and Jerry’s and Popsicles from Unilever.

CBC is the outlier however as it is consistently Liberal supporting.

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