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for the past decade+ i’ve just lived with crippling adhd and dealt with it as best as i could. and boy do i mean crippling. i feel like dependency on a prescription stimulant is asking for trouble, at least for me personally.
I've wondered if Adderall could be popular in part because it can lead to weight loss. This wouldn't be why people would go on the medication, but why they would hesitate going off it. I know some people continued smoking after they wanted to stop because they feared gaining weight when they did.
In my experience ADHD medicine doesn't actually induce weight loss, despite weight loss being a desirable thing for me. It suppresses your appetite, sure, but it doesn't shield you from the effects of not eating all day. I often force myself to eat something for lunch or I'll just end up tired and annoyed in the afternoon/evening (edit: I don't eat breakfast). Plus, once the medicine wears off at night (or on weekend…
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A choice must be made. Either be more restrictive and controlling meaning that some people that need the drugs don't get them. Or be less restrictive and controlling meaning that some people you think shouldn't get the drugs get them.
There's other ways to realign incentives. A buy back program would do a lot honestly to restrict the supply. A lot of people who got them for legit purposes would still end up with a ton leftover when they would get their next prescription. If they were able to get more money returning them to the pharmacy or counting them towards their next prescription than selling them to other students, that's what they would do.
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The article goes to lengths to describe how the government, specifically the DEA are limiting supply by issuing edicts to pharmaceutical companies. Corporations don't generally defy government edicts, especially ones that lead to raids and jail time, so we really can say it's the government's doing here, rather than particularly self-limiting behavior on the part of the pharmaceutical companies. That the government i…
Can you please provide a cite? I tend to think this coercion probably is happening. Agency rule making should be public and published in federal register. I don't know what the effective recourse would be. The easy track is to go to Mexico and load up on what your Dr. prescribed.
The medications described are Schedule II, which is defined as "The drug or other substance has a currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States or a currently accepted medical use with severe restrictions."
One citation for the limits being secret are:
Ike Swetlitz, I (2023) "Xanax and Adderall Access Is Being Blocked by Secret Drug Limits". Bloomberg, Online edition. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-03/adderall-...
> Xanax and Adderall Access Is Being Blocked by Secret Drug Limits
> The Drug Enforcement Administration regulates the manufacturing, distribution and sale of controlled substances, which can be dangerous when used improperly
> the limits themselves are secret.
> A Cardinal Health document reviewed by Bloomberg News says that limits are calculated on a daily, monthly, and quarterly basis.
I'm on a controlled substance and I am disabled and not able to work without it. I've been extremely lucky thus far, but given how many I know have had issues, it is only a matter of time.
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Isn't that to be expected, though? There's plenty of people who wouldn't subject themselves to the ordeal of going to the doctors to pursue a diagnosis of an untreatable disease. You just suffer through it. In contrast, if there's a known treatment for it, then the reward (not having ADD symptoms) dramatically outweighs the cost (of drudging through doctors appointments). I'd bet the number of surgeries significantly…
You underestimate college students because that is exactly what we did in college. People went to their doctor, faked hyperactivity, and were given adderall which they then sold to other students. I'm sure your ADD is horrible but try telling someone taking these drugs to stop. They won't. They depend on it too much and it's become part of their personality, and their belief that it is what they need. Just. Like. Oxy…
Additionally, Adderall and the like aren't just like +2 INT boosts - the stimulants have a different affect on most people with ADHD than it would on a regular person... so whatever you've experienced abusing the medication is probably quite a bit different from what I'll experience using it.
Oh great: > Sometimes, they must send patients on frustrating journeys to find pharmacies that haven’t yet exceeded their caps in order to buy prescribed medicines. Does this then get them put on the secret list of "people with drug seeking behaviors" which apparently includes people who fill prescriptions for their dogs? [0] [0] https://www.wired.com/story/opioid-drug-addiction-algorithm-...
My 1 year old dog (who is batshit insane, but we still love her) had to have part of her tail amputated because she kept breaking it open, the vet had us giving her 3x painkillers 2x a day. The pharmacy tech insisted they weren't going to fill a followup script because she had already been prescribed 60 pills, 10 days before and refused to perform basic math. (3*2*10=60)
I'm all for trying to address our opioid issues, but it feels like instead of addressing the issue of doctors running pill mills, over-prescribing these drugs, they are focused on just not allowing them to be prescribed at all... Even for people who genuinely need them.
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ADHD is an ADA-recognized disability. I doubt you’d support secret limits on mobility scooter orders because college kids sometimes steal golf carts. Why is this different?
Because Adderall is 100% pure speed. A handful of Adderalls is more fun than a bag of cocaine (which is going to be more like 5% purity and adulterated with god knows what).
I need adderall to function but on my last refill the pharmacy was out and when I asked when they’ll get more the tech said “maybe next year?”. I got my doc to switch me to vyvanse which is 3x the price even with good insurance since it’s still brand only. I don’t like vyvanse compared to plain generic adderall but I’ll take what I can get. Seems like they’d make dispensing it harder rather than just cut off the supp…
All to say maybe try the cheaper dexadrine twice a day.
I need adderall to function but on my last refill the pharmacy was out and when I asked when they’ll get more the tech said “maybe next year?”. I got my doc to switch me to vyvanse which is 3x the price even with good insurance since it’s still brand only. I don’t like vyvanse compared to plain generic adderall but I’ll take what I can get. Seems like they’d make dispensing it harder rather than just cut off the supp…
Personally, while I don't take either now, I could never go back on Vyvanse due to the severe appetite suppression I experienced on that medication which I did not have with Adderall. These medications are not completely interchangeable.
Not meant to argue, I just don’t want to unnecessarily dissuade people who might be having trouble filling Adderall and weighing the possibility of temporarily substituting so they have something to fill the gap.