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Re: Xanax and Adderall Access Is Being Blocked by Secret Drug Limits

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Post by brazzledazzle »

operatingthetan wrote: post #47
caslon wrote: post #21

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It's actually a big difference. One feels downright euphoric, according to Desoxyn users. The other is a boring study drug. https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/12/28/adderall-risks-much-mo...

>The other is a boring study drug That's quite the mischaracterization. Stimulants even at low doses increase the dopamine in the brain and lead to a mild high. I don't think I've ever heard anyone ever call Adderall "boring" before either. That's like calling alcohol boring, maybe someone may not like the experience, but they both have immediate and noticeable effects and it's not just "I love studying" either. Even…

In my experience people who take adderall while partying do it to stay awake longer to party with other drugs or booze. In practice for most people that “high” isn’t really a thing. At least not with anyone I know who is prescribed it or sometimes takes it recreationally. Meth on the other hand? Yeah that’s going to give you a very noticeable high.

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Post by chasd00 »

I need adderall to function but on my last refill the pharmacy was out and when I asked when they’ll get more the tech said “maybe next year?”. I got my doc to switch me to vyvanse which is 3x the price even with good insurance since it’s still brand only. I don’t like vyvanse compared to plain generic adderall but I’ll take what I can get.

Seems like they’d make dispensing it harder rather than just cut off the supply to everyone.

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Post by millimeterman »

gnicholas wrote: post #23

I've wondered if Adderall could be popular in part because it can lead to weight loss. This wouldn't be why people would go on the medication, but why they would hesitate going off it. I know some people continued smoking after they wanted to stop because they feared gaining weight when they did.

In my experience ADHD medicine doesn't actually induce weight loss, despite weight loss being a desirable thing for me.

It suppresses your appetite, sure, but it doesn't shield you from the effects of not eating all day. I often force myself to eat something for lunch or I'll just end up tired and annoyed in the afternoon/evening (edit: I don't eat breakfast).

Plus, once the medicine wears off at night (or on weekends when I skip taking it), I usually get ravenously hungry and easily make up any caloric deficit.

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Post by olyjohn »

pyuser583 wrote: post #43
gnicholas wrote: post #23

I've wondered if Adderall could be popular in part because it can lead to weight loss. This wouldn't be why people would go on the medication, but why they would hesitate going off it. I know some people continued smoking after they wanted to stop because they feared gaining weight when they did.

I’ve struggled with weight and ADHD. Adderall is an appetite suppressant, but that doesn’t always translate to weight loss. I’ve forgotten to eat for an entire day, but made up for it (and then some) the next.

Yeah, when I was on dextroamp, it would completely eliminate my appetite. I'd have to eat breakfast before taking it, and at about 8-10pm when it wore off, I was STARVING, and would eat everything in the fridge. At actual dinner time, I would stare at a delicious plate of food and not even feel like touching it despite not having eaten since 7am.

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Post by [deleted] »

kevviiinn wrote: post #27
runnerup wrote: post #18

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> is it any surprise that Xanax and Adderall are being limited? That depends on who is doing the limiting — if the pharmacy corporations are self-limiting then I would understand they are limiting their potential exposure/liability to whatever risk level they are comfortable with. I’ll still be able to find my necessary drugs at another chain which doesn’t limit. If the government is doing the limiting, then yes, tha…

The DEA needs to justify their existence somehow

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Post by operatingthetan »

brazzledazzle wrote: post #51
operatingthetan wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The other is a boring study drug That's quite the mischaracterization. Stimulants even at low doses increase the dopamine in the brain and lead to a mild high. I don't think I've ever heard anyone ever call Adderall "boring" before either. That's like calling alcohol boring, maybe someone may not like the experience, but they both have immediate and noticeable effects and it's not just "I love studying" either. Even…

In my experience people who take adderall while partying do it to stay awake longer to party with other drugs or booze. In practice for most people that “high” isn’t really a thing. At least not with anyone I know who is prescribed it or sometimes takes it recreationally. Meth on the other hand? Yeah that’s going to give you a very noticeable high.

Please browse https://www.reddit.com/r/StopSpeeding/ (probably nsfw) for many stories of people struggling with prescription stimulant abuse. These people aren't taking it because it keeps them up longer for drinking.

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OkayPhysicist wrote: post #26
westmeal wrote: post #8

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I suppose, but anecdotally I was told I have ADD by my family physician and was prescribed various stimulants including adderall and ritalin. I only stopped and got on a patch based medication when I was losing weight because of the amphetamines destroying my appetite and I was already a skinny bastard. The only difference I felt on the medication is that I was methed up. This could have been a misdiagnosis but the t…

> Should we make children take meth because they don't like the system they're in? The flip side of this is that being unable to thrive in the system they're in is effectively dooming them to a substandard, more difficult life. If you think the system is broken, fix it, but ripping off the bandage before you have any sutures on hand is the opposite of a solution. If I had started on medication younger, I undoubtedly…

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Post by kayodelycaon »

notch898a wrote: post #40
EngManagerIsMe wrote: post #15

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Left handedness used to be about 2% of the US population. Now it's about 12%. While it could be that somehow we've got an epidemic of left-handedness that blossomed in the 1920s, what's much more likely is that we've gotten more accommodating and understanding of left handed people, so there was less incentive to fit the mold of right handed folks. I'm sure there were people who were alarmed at that rise, who felt th…

I've also noticed family members benefit greatly from SSRIs. The main skeptic point I have is I've also seen them absolutely get wrecked by what appears to them as supply chain failures (usually because they're unable to get a meeting with a physician in time for refills and no physician will grant them a "bridge" to the next appointment). Of course as we saw during COVID, supply chain failures of all sorts are possi…

I would expect withdrawal from almost any medication for any chronic medical condition to be worse than baseline.

I’ve been allergic to milk for at least 15 years. I didn’t know it until 3 years ago. Now that I’m not ingesting a toxic substance every day, any accidental consumption has an extremely bad reaction.

It’s similar with my bipolar medication. Now that I don’t spend half of every day trying to not kill myself, I don’t have the tolerance I used to for paranoia, psychosis, and compulsive thoughts.

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