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Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by YawningAngel »

smnrchrds wrote: post #21
otikik wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Each one of those ads is a free ad for Apple and Linux. “If you had Apple, you wouldn’t have to endure this!”

I wish Apple was actually good in that regard. I ended up uninstalling Apple Stocks app from my Mac and iPhone because of all the terrible ads. The ads I saw were even worse than this: https://images.app.goo.gl/dVbDoBuScVzp3uAg9

If the worst problem you have is ads in your stocks app, it sounds like Apple is still coming out way ahead. I agree that they're squandering brand value for what must be a very marginal gain though

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by JohnFen »

nice_byte wrote: post #42

from the title, I thought these would be ads for third-party products. it actually is just prodding to install/use ms's own stuff, so it's a nothingburger.

Ads are ads. It doesn't matter if they're for third party products or not.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by damnesian »

AshamedCaptain wrote: post #3

Every couple of weeks Windows shows a FULL SCREEN advertisement during boot/login which requires several clicks to get rid of. They advertise everything starting from Microsoft Accounts, OneDrive, MS Edge ( https://www.windowslatest.com/2020/11/15/windows-10-is-now-n... ) , Windows 11 ( https://mspoweruser.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/167013949... ) , and a long etc. This is not a small advert in a small corner of…

Perhaps require acknowledging an ad to open or save a document? With full OS integration and demonstrated willingness to expose any user to advertising, the possibilities are numerous.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by twawaaay »

nikanj wrote: post #72
twawaaay wrote: post #53

It is death of an operating system. Before our eyes. Microsoft is trying desperately to squeeze a bit more cash out of it but the failing culture within Microsoft is unable to recognise they are driving users off their own product. I already got fed up enough that I basically banned Windows at home and I am impatiently waiting to kill one last Windows box. It is our gaming machine that is generally available to entir…

Windows has been imminently dying since the early 00s, and still seems to be in mortal peril every day.

It has definitely NOT been dying since early 00s.

The first definable moment where I think Windows started being at risk was release of iPhone and then smartphones that followed it (so say 2008). But even then it wasn't yet clear that smartphones will take over the world so thoroughly and drive people from using laptops.

Until that moment I would definitely project that the future will see more and more people having access to laptops. Only after it was clear people are more likely going to go with smartphones (around 2009-2010) it was reasonable to say that the market share of Windows has to start falling in favour of smartphones.

And it still wasn't clear that the same will be true even within laptop/desktop market.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by pkilgore »

How outrageous!

Let me close the Apple Music window for this App I can't uninstall, and that popup that says I can't save my notes unless I have iCloud, and look past the automatically included Apple News and Apple Financed widgets in the notification panel I accidentally opened to go open a browser that defaults to showing me the shortcuts for several third party companies whose services I do not use to get on the internet to gloat about my superior choice.

/s

[For the record, all of this is bad, and I constantly wonder why my government thinks there isn't a monopoly problem here, I'm just kinda amused how much hate windows gets in particular, especially since I strongly suspect disabling this is a registry change away, which is not the case for many things I dislike about the computer I am using to type this.]

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by sampa »

I'll just remind everybody that on Linux we have VFIO, where you can passthrough your videocard to Windows virtual-machine, and have almost native gaming.

As a big plus, your Win VM's disk C:\ is stored in a file, which you can backup and restore any time you want and not care about viruses/trojans/malware.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by Latty »

twawaaay wrote: post #53

It is death of an operating system. Before our eyes. Microsoft is trying desperately to squeeze a bit more cash out of it but the failing culture within Microsoft is unable to recognise they are driving users off their own product. I already got fed up enough that I basically banned Windows at home and I am impatiently waiting to kill one last Windows box. It is our gaming machine that is generally available to entir…

Just as Valve are making Linux way more viable for gaming, there are still pain points if you are into certain stuff with anti-cheat that doesn't like it, as I understand it, but for my use case, my Steam Deck plays everything I personally want right now extremely well. When my Windows 10 install on my dedicated gaming PC finally gets too old, I may just switch to SteamOS for gaming.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by nazgulsenpai »

twosdai wrote: post #63
twawaaay wrote: post #53

It is death of an operating system. Before our eyes. Microsoft is trying desperately to squeeze a bit more cash out of it but the failing culture within Microsoft is unable to recognise they are driving users off their own product. I already got fed up enough that I basically banned Windows at home and I am impatiently waiting to kill one last Windows box. It is our gaming machine that is generally available to entir…

I've been gaming on pop os for a little while now. It's pretty good honestly. I would give it a shot.

I've been gaming on Void Linux of all things since November and it's run everything that isn't just flat out incompatible with Linux (anti-cheat doesn't allow, etc).

Sometimes I think it sucks that I can't play X because the anti-cheat won't allow it to start, then I remember it's a kernel level driver I cross my fingers and hope isn't doing anything nefarious and feel better.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by robryan »

eugenekolo wrote: post #5

I feel like I'm on crazy pills when I complain about these things and all the other intrusions Windows pops up at me every time I use the operating system... Yet, the people who use it (mostly gamers), seem to think it's all fine and the operating system is great.

A lot of it can be disabled. I am indifferent to it, it is still the best OS overall for games and I just boot it up for games.
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