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Why are so many young men single and sexless?

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Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

#81

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It's them who want something so it's on them to change.

Does that logic work for Blacks for instance ?

I think the difference here is that in case of a female (or a male for that matter) it is their personal choice of whether they want to have sex with someone or not; but racial non-discrimination is a norm you are expected to follow. I.e it is a norm that anyone can decide on their own sexual behavior, and it's also a norm to not be discriminatory.

Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

#82

The article comes off as slightly condescending; even as I'm 32 and just above the "Young men" threshold ( Some of the thing mentioned, such as young women not looking for emotional attachment as much might be true, but what about >30 women? My early 20s, online dating era romantic life was miserable; it made me feel completely worthless and that's a sentiment A LOT of young men get from those dating apps. I simply g…

Yes,part of the explanation is probably that women mature a bit earlier than men (in terms of romantic and sexual attractivity).

Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

#84

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Does that logic work for Blacks for instance ?

If you want something that you have a right to, other people have to change. Not being discriminated is not a "nice to have", it's a human right. Sex with attractive women on the other hand is definitely not a human right. Is it just me who finds it ridiculous that this has to be spelled out?

I find it funny as well.

I guess sex can be considered a human right in a certain way: no third party should be able to stop a consenting group of people to having sex.

While this is the wrong definition: another person should have sex with me. This latter definition often seems to be the taken meaning of "sex is a human right" and seems to be interpreted that way to advance the interest of that particular person saying it.

Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

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30s single women complain 30s men being creeps for younger girls

I haven't seen that, really. I have seen people interpreting such age gap as a sign of guys immaturity or a general red flag for "that dude is looking to take advantage of you". I have never seen the "I would date that guy but he dates younger girls" thing. Having younger partner is status symbol for a men to show off to other men. It does not make him look like good potential partner to adult women tho.

> I have never seen the "I would date that guy but he dates younger girls" thing.

You find it in the "he's a predator" comments. It's the same dynamic as rejected men calling women a lesbian: dealing with rejection by projecting their negative emotions onto the other person. "Good! I didn't want him/her anyway! Who would ever want someone like that?"

Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

#86

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Good writing, but bad argument. Some things that make those "systems" different: 1. The market domain is much "wider" than sex . Money influences every aspect of your life. 2. The exact same argument could be made about many other "systems of differentiation". Such as skill or physical and mental health. It's a cheap argument to make it seem like socialist arguments against economic inequality also applies to some ki…

I suggest you read this: https://www.overcomingbias.com/2018/06/comparing-income-sex-...

I don't understand how you mean that long text addresses the issues raised by me and others.

From what I can discern, he makes two counter arguments:

1. Sex is as important as income.

2. Poor income leads to "poor access" to sex. If the income distribution is unfair, so must the resulting sex distribution be.

To 1 I can only respond that many people feel differently. Anecdotally, I've never encountered anyone but well off men making the argument. Is that your experience also?

For 2: Poor income leads to many unfair situations. Let's cure the problem and not the symptom.

Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

#87

The article comes off as slightly condescending; even as I'm 32 and just above the "Young men" threshold ( Some of the thing mentioned, such as young women not looking for emotional attachment as much might be true, but what about >30 women? My early 20s, online dating era romantic life was miserable; it made me feel completely worthless and that's a sentiment A LOT of young men get from those dating apps. I simply g…

Yes,part of the explanation is probably that women mature a bit earlier than men (in terms of romantic and sexual attractivity).

So 20-30 year old men are too immature for women to be interested in them? But women of the same age aren't? So should we keep you'd men out of the work force and out of the general population because they're too immature to interact with more reasoned beings? Do you really think that?

Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

#88

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Does that logic work for Blacks for instance ?

If you want something that you have a right to, other people have to change. Not being discriminated is not a "nice to have", it's a human right. Sex with attractive women on the other hand is definitely not a human right. Is it just me who finds it ridiculous that this has to be spelled out?

Well, if a recruiter does not hire enough blacks or women for IT, that's discriminatory, and social warriors want quotas.

Why doesnt that apply similarly to young women "discriminating" young men ? Shouldn't we need quotas here ?

Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

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> Faced with the choice between an energy-intensive, highly competitive dating environment and the low-effort rewards of porn, young men appear to be taking the path of least resistance. If young men are dropping out of the competition and resorting to porn instead, then who's staying in the dating environment to keep it competitive? With all those porn dropouts, I should have an easy time dating, right?

Older men who are not in gen z.

Re: Why are so many young men single and sexless?

#90
post #16

I mean one sure way not to have sex with someone else is to never expose yourself to situations that could lead to such a thing. As an educator I have to say that over my career there was a noticable shift in how students behave. The students I have today are more shy, more careful and more risk averse than students 4 years ago. I could imagine that many of them would just decide to not bother at all until luck falls…

Maybe students are more shy and more careful because everyone around them has a video camera in their pocket.
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