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Sci-fi mag pauses submissions amid flood of AI-generated short stories

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Soon, however, I expect AI to write even better, more personal, and more riveting stories than humans. It is just that they are bad now that they are blocked from submissions.

Is it gonna happen after cars drive themselves or before?

Re: Sci-fi mag pauses submissions amid flood of AI-generated short stories

#83

This story is an opportunity to ask a question I've been wondering about: Is it possible for the same generation of a LLM to produce stories that are significantly better than each other, given the same prompt multiple times? I know you can improve a response by tweaking the prompt. I know that randomness plays a part in the generation process. But, if (let's say) ChatGPT version x.xxx produces a C+ short story the f…

Yes, it can. It's not as simple as giving it the same prompt, but literally feeding prompts into its response like, "this is really corny sounding, nobody actually talks like that. Please write it to be more authentic. Please also write it as if this response was the first, sloppy draft from a world-class, multi-disciplinary author, and rewrite it to be their fourth copy that's been edited by an equally talented editor. Also add more dialogue."

Then feed the story it wrote into a new chat and tell it to rewrite it from scratch, but include very specific details that it should change to convey the scene. "have it star out with the main character staring at a childhood photo".

Re: Sci-fi mag pauses submissions amid flood of AI-generated short stories

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think we actually disagree, honestly. I think we're just looking through different lenses. > The idea may be more than a one sentence pitch and instead an entire vision. Yes, the idea has to be fleshed out in order to be ready to start executing it. I never meant to imply the idea creator wasn't the best person to do this, and I never meant to imply we were talking about an individual.

I think the ideas are worthless and a dime a dozen without execution has created a dismissive attitude. Everyone needs to be an engineer or lender to contribute. Why would an engineer want to pair with somebody and “do all the work”? Part of executing is looking at what features or decisions similar failure made, and righting the ship on the next go around. Where is the idea person college course? MBA? Some kind of s…

The point I'm making with "dime a dozen" isn't to diminish the value of ideas, it's to stop people from valuing ideas above other things that are equally important.

I still don't think we disagree. But perhaps we're addressing different audiences. You are concerned with people who undervalue the role of idea developers, and I am concerned with addressing people who value the idea itself over the development of the idea.

I've seen many startups die because of getting that wrong.

> Part of executing is looking at what features or decisions similar failure made, and righting the ship on the next go around.

Yes, exactly so!

Re: Sci-fi mag pauses submissions amid flood of AI-generated short stories

#85

I'm surprised that they are only getting 500ish submissions. Seems like all you need to really jam up the review process is an unbound while().

I think that 500 figure isn't the total number of submissions, but rather the number of _people_ who Clarkesworld banned for plagiarism/ submitting AI-generated content.

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Are any of them any good? Would someone please post a few good ones?

It seems curation and critique will be in greater demand with this oncoming tsunami of AI art. We need people to sift through it all and pick out the good stuff.

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What does the value in writing mainly consist of? Edit: currently this question is at -3, as though it’s obvious to everyone the difference between valuable writing and not valuable writing. To me it’s a worthwhile question, particularly because the more precisely we answer it the more precisely ChatGPT will become able to produce valuable writing a couple releases from now.

It's the way the story is told. If it was all about the idea, you'd just read the Wikipedia plot synopsis, say "ah what a great story that was, so glad I read it" and move on.

> read the Wikipedia plot synopsis, say "ah what a great story that was, so glad I read it"

I have unironically done this for movies/books/games/media I've elected not to consume but otherwise desired to know for cultural context.

Re: Sci-fi mag pauses submissions amid flood of AI-generated short stories

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Statistically, yes. Infinite monkeys being as productive as they are, you'd eventually get Shakespeare out by accident.

Not even by accident, given that Shakespeare's in the training dataset.

Much of Shakespeare's content would be considered harmful by ChatGPT's filters.

Re: Sci-fi mag pauses submissions amid flood of AI-generated short stories

#89

Yet another reason why AI is harmful. This is a real-world example of how AI, with its ability to trivially generate huge, low-quality volume, has shut down something people derive a benefit from. People like to write and read stories, and now they can do neither. Thanks to those who programmed ChatGPT /s

I'm sure they can solve this by charging a $1 per submission.

Re: Sci-fi mag pauses submissions amid flood of AI-generated short stories

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It shouldn't matter which tools were used to write a story, just whether it's a good story or not. However, how would any publisher assess such a flood of submissions? Use AI to pre-classify stories as good/mediocre/bad?

This is incorrect. The absurd extreme of what you are advocating is full automation at which point people do literally nothing but consume content.

That sounds tiring. Can't I get an AI to consume the content for me?
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