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Re: maps.google.com now redirects to google.com/maps

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "It's a very strange move indeed. maps.google.com implies an application lives there, far better than being on the root domain." How does "maps.google.com" imply an application "lives there" any more than "google.com/maps"? Technically speaking, "google.com/maps" is far superior to "maps.google.com" (check out the rest of the comments in this thread for examples: simpler DNS configuration, simpler certificate manag…

Technically speaking it goes around any security CORS and friends provide

Security is hard, money is easy. Simple choice!

Re: maps.google.com now redirects to google.com/maps

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I wonder if this is why the mega-app model is so common for Chinese companies. It's far easier to justify collecting a million permissions when your app does a million things.

I think that is more a resurrection of the department store and mega-corp models: if you do a bit of everything then the bottom falling out of one market won't affect you badly as the other areas can soak up the temporary loss. Also, if you have positive name recognition in some areas this can benefit the others, and there is a passive advertising pressure of people using you for one thing seeing something else you have in store or linked to your name (where a more organic search to fulfil a need might be as likely to lead to a competitor as to you).

The difference that might break this analogy being that with a mega-app there isn't really a diversity of revenue streams despite the diversity of products/features: it all comes down to stalking to be able to better sell advertising.

Re: maps.google.com now redirects to google.com/maps

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https://www.openstreetmap.org

If you need OSM on Android, I can recommend: - "Organic Maps" (a fork of the old MapsMe codebase) if you want a clean, simple user experience - "OSMAnd" if you want a very powerful, highly customizable map application, which comes at the cost of a steeper learning curve Both apps are open source and support navigation, offline maps and POI search. The things I miss most compared to Google Maps is live traffic informa…

Is panning and zooming in OSMAnd not a huge pain for anyone else? The map rendering (of downloaded maps) is extremely sluggish and absolutely useless for me to use. (Even worse than the tile-based rendering of early Maps on iPhone.)

Organic and MagicEarth work fine for me. I really wonder if it is just my setup or if everyone else suffers from this. I am on a Pixel 5 with CalyxOS using the OSMAnd+ from Fdroid (but same with normal OSMAnd from Aurora)

Re: maps.google.com now redirects to google.com/maps

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found OsmAnd absolutely essential in my extensive off-road travels in Central America and Spain, paid to support it via Google Play, but i could not for the hell of it figure out how to submit photos and places. It forced me to create a separate account and then always gave me errors when i tried to submit

The separate account is needed for openstreetmap uploads/notes/corrections. You can add places on osm.org also or retry with the osm account using Osmand.

I have what i think is a separate account. Could you link a GitHub where i can create an issue and upload error screenshots? Even if it's not a bug but a feature, it should still be useful, because this flow is very confusing.

Re: maps.google.com now redirects to google.com/maps

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This made me think how much would I lose if I'll just block all *.google.com domains in the browser? I was using DDG for search and Firefox for browsing for many years without problems, but I also still use Gmail and Google docs (or whatever they are called these days, Google for Work?). Maybe, a blanket ban plus a few exceptions like mail.google.com, docs.google.com, tables.google.com and drive.google.com would not…

> (or whatever they are called these days, Google for Work?)

Gmail is currently branded as part of Google Workspace, and shows the Workspace logo upon sign in. It probably has been that way architecturarly for a long time, but I think they have made it more explicit relatively recently, at least for non-corporate users.

It looks like "Google for Work" is an old name of Google Workspace.

Re: maps.google.com now redirects to google.com/maps

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huh? You were always able to share sub-domain cookies with top-level domain cookies no? Set-Cookie: name=value; domain=google.com

Setting cookies doesn't allow using Browser APIs lie GEO-Location

What about other apis such as web notifications or webcam and mic access?

With separate domains we could allow notifications for one (e.g calendar) and disallow for another (e.g mail) at the browser level.

Seems like it would now be a blanket allow for all of google.com (with a toggle for each product setting, maybe?) which sounds like a very user hostile move.

I guess it depends if one considers Google products to be separate apps or Google as a whole to be a "Web OS".

(Also on the technical side there's not just google.com but also google., which is even worse in terms of CORS, certs, or whatever. Would they get rid of that?)

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