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Re: An account was suspended

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Post by pohuing »

throwup wrote: post #52
imhoguy wrote: post #24

Well, automated banning is going beyond absurd. OT but just yesterday I finally decided to join Discord fad for some open-source communities, but my freshly created account got instantly disabled after successful validation with email and phone, that without sending any message. Unfortunately I don't own a second phone number to register another one. I better stick with my veteran ways - IRC, mail-lists, forums. Matr…

I had a Discord account created in 2015 that I had always used with their Android app. Then one day I logged in with Firefox and boom, suddenly and permanently banned. I'm not sure what the lesson is here... maybe avoid uBlock and submit to the surveillance?

I've been using discord on actually all platforms and browsers out there with and without ad blockers and it was never an issue. Maybe some server you were in was hit with a blanket ban and the timing just coincided with you using FF?

Re: An account was suspended

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Post by djbusby »

breck wrote: post #33
_madmax_ wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At this point in time I think I am comfortable saying the web is more detrimental to humans than Television ever was.

If you just stick to the sites that are public domain without ads, it's an amazing place. And of course the "purple app" that everyone is talking about ( https://www.farcaster.xyz/ ) is incredible.

You are the first person I've heard mention FarCaster.

Re: An account was suspended

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Post by ipqk »

OJFord wrote: post #4

'permanently suspended' is weird in itself isn't it? Just avoiding the word 'banned' or similar.. but butchering other words into meaning the same thing?

I think there's a subtle difference. A person is banned, but the account is permanently suspended. Trump himself was banned, and one of his accounts @realDonaladTrump was permanently suspended.

Re: An account was suspended

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Post by lapcat »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #67

I'm a big fan of Ben Thompson, and I'm not necessarily on Twitter's side here, but this to me seems more like a case of Ben whining about "Spam is when someone else sends it". From his own words, this "Stratechery Interviews" account was a new account that only sent out tweets of links from multiple locations around the world. In other words, the only thing really distinguishing it from spam on a technical level is t…

It's important to note that the suspended account didn't send any replies, or even retweet or like any other accounts. Presumably it didn't send any unsolicited DMs either.

The account was not harming or annoying anyone. Does it even qualify as "spam"?

Re: An account was suspended

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Post by htrp »

psychphysic wrote: post #79
breck wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find Twitter amazing. (though I'm currently suspended again - https://twitter.com/breckyunits ). The trick is not to have a smart phone. When I'm coding I can pop in and out of Twitter. But then when I close the lid I'm unplugged.

But why do you keep getting suspended?

No smart phone... and no twitter app install.

Re: An account was suspended

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Post by ajmurmann »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #67

I'm a big fan of Ben Thompson, and I'm not necessarily on Twitter's side here, but this to me seems more like a case of Ben whining about "Spam is when someone else sends it". From his own words, this "Stratechery Interviews" account was a new account that only sent out tweets of links from multiple locations around the world. In other words, the only thing really distinguishing it from spam on a technical level is t…

Agreed on this point. This easily could have been a bot farming reputation by retweeting someone else's content.

It is shocking though how much much more blatant spam goes unchecked. Pretty much every tweet by popular accounts has a slew of crypto spam replies.

Re: An account was suspended

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Post by rfrey »

lapcat wrote: post #34
mschuster91 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even blue checkmarks don't help against trolls, far right and griefers running mass-report attacks. The problem at its core is that Twitter refuses to hire appropriate levels of moderation staff for the scale it has, and that it does nothing against raid instigators. Reddit at least has subreddit mods take care of most of the bullshit and at least the large subreddit mods have direct connections to Reddit, and Reddit…

> The problem at its core is that Twitter refuses to hire appropriate levels of moderation staff for the scale it has I don't believe that anyone could moderate at Twitter's scale. More than 500 million tweets are published per day . How do you moderate that? It's like bringing an umbrella to a tsunami. Not to mention, Reddit moderation is crap. I've tried to use Reddit several times but gave up each time, because my…

The important thing is that humans review algorithmic bans, not review every tweet.

Re: An account was suspended

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Post by TLLtchvL8KZ »

alfiedotwtf wrote: post #15
michaelmcdonald wrote: post #2

Ben's account is already un-suspended, but only because he has a major presence and large audience (I would be shocked if people at Twitter didn't see this minutes into it happening or if Ben didn't have some direct line to various high up employees there). For the rest of us peasants: good luck getting help.

Yep. My account got suspended a few years ago. But to be honest, it was a blessing in disguise. Twitter for me was a huge time sink, even though I followed really interesting people talking about things I was really interesting. But once I got a forced detox, I realised I just gained back hours a week to do other things. Get off Twitter. Even better, turn off that TV.

This is my experience too, I honestly believe that for anyone using twitter being permanently suspended is the best thing that can happen to them. It's just an awful place.

Spam, bots, fake stories, constant outrage. It's miserable but people seem to become addicted.

Re: An account was suspended

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Post by Huh1337 »

itsamoreh wrote: post #68
_madmax_ wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At this point in time I think I am comfortable saying the web is more detrimental to humans than Television ever was.

"Television is more detrimental to humans than telephone ever was." "Telephone is more detrimental to humans than radio ever was." "Radio is more detrimental to humans than telegraph ever was."

How is telephone and telegraph detrimental?

Re: An account was suspended

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Post by [deleted] »

efitz wrote: post #48
somehnacct3757 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no such thing as appropriate moderation at Twitter scale. It's societal techology we as humans do not have. Underlying moderation is some shared vision of decency - morality claims that should be enforced via justice. These claims certainly don't exist across nation borders, and they barely exist within a given nation's borders. The bot moderation conundrum is a wholly second moderation question layered on to…

I think the solution is opt-in curation. If someone (or 10k someones) watches and compiles quality items of interest, maybe i want one of those feeds INSTEAD of Twitter’s ML algorithm. Twitter can still monetize but now curations could monetize individually via including specific ad tweets. And i want to subscribe to multiple curations, not just one. Twitter could even have their own ML algorithm as a curation but I…

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