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Re: Phil Haack quit Microsoft for GitHub

#81
Let's see how long until Phil Haack enjoys the non-MS tools :)

The experience so far from ex-Softie seems to suggest that people will eventually leave MS ecosystems once they're outside the company.

The evolution is as follow:

Cheering for MS -> Hired by MS -> Trying to change the culture -> work for a while -> leave MS -> "Hello New Tech!"

PS: This isn't about good or bad.

Re: Phil Haack quit Microsoft for GitHub

#83
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Disagree. It's gotten better, but the tooling is awkward, the commonly used UI (TortoiseGit) is wonky, and not being a "native citizen" on the OS isn't acceptable--MSYS is a mess to have around on a Windows machine and even the "minimal subset" that you can install with Git is more than I consider acceptable. (I realize that entirely too much of Git is UNIX-based plumbing, but that's their problem.) I gave Git anothe…

git GUIs on windows are all pretty weak, but the git command line and git bash work perfectly well. my experience with git GUIs in general (regardless of the OS) is that you should just give up and use the CLI.

Cool, great. Except that the Windows command line sucks and bash is uncomfortable to the point of unusability on Windows. I will use a shell (not bash) on Unix platforms where it is properly integrated and meshes with the rest of my workflow; this is not Windows, and attempting to attach it to Windows with baling wire does not work for me.

My experience with source control systems--you know, including ones that aren't git--is that you can generally find a good UI for them. SourceTree on Mac is great for hg and git. Tower is great for git, too. Even TortoiseHg is a country mile past TortoiseGit in usefulness.

Re: Phil Haack quit Microsoft for GitHub

#85

For anyone curious about any background on Phil Haack. Here are his notable accomplishments. - MS Lead on ASP.net MVC framework vers. 1 through 3 (current) - Lead on the NuGet package manager framework for Visual Studio - This Developer's Life Podcast with Scott Hanselman

Phil also invented C#, the Faux Hawk, and Daft Punk

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Re: Phil Haack quit Microsoft for GitHub

#86
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Yep, I had nothing to do with TDL. Wish I could claim it, but I can't. I mean, I guess I could and lie about it, but no. Won't do that. Not yet anyways. :)

You are an accomplished ballroom dancer, though.

He's not that good. Doesn't lead and won't follow. Dead weight most of the time, although pretty good with the dips.

Re: Phil Haack quit Microsoft for GitHub

#87
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Yep, I had nothing to do with TDL. Wish I could claim it, but I can't. I mean, I guess I could and lie about it, but no. Won't do that. Not yet anyways. :)

You are an accomplished ballroom dancer, though.

Honest mistake guys, I've listened to almost every episode and had no idea. All the jokes about the Hawaiian shirts and I've been thinking of the wrong person.

Re: Phil Haack quit Microsoft for GitHub

#88

Let's see how long until Phil Haack enjoys the non-MS tools :) The experience so far from ex-Softie seems to suggest that people will eventually leave MS ecosystems once they're outside the company. The evolution is as follow: Cheering for MS -> Hired by MS -> Trying to change the culture -> work for a while -> leave MS -> "Hello New Tech!" PS: This isn't about good or bad.

Formerly developed at all MS shops, now at Amazon mostly doing Java with a Linux workstation. Oh words can't describe how I miss Visual Studio and responsiveness of Windows 7.

Re: Phil Haack quit Microsoft for GitHub

#89

For anyone curious about any background on Phil Haack. Here are his notable accomplishments. - MS Lead on ASP.net MVC framework vers. 1 through 3 (current) - Lead on the NuGet package manager framework for Visual Studio - This Developer's Life Podcast with Scott Hanselman

I'm unable to edit my blunderous original post, but as others have pointed out, Rob Conery is the host of This Developer's Life (an excellent podcast) and not Phil Haack. Honest mistake.
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