Declassified US nuclear targets – interactive map

Post by chuckschnitzel » Sun, Oct 09, 2022, 11:07 AM UTC

willis936 wrote: post #75

notthatmccarthy wrote: post #69

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> I am struggling with the alternative. So a dictator can invade any country he wants because otherwise he can say "booh, nuclear apocalypse" and because we can't risk to be anywhere near that, we need to give the dictator whatever he wants? And the invaded country has to swallow it? It's easy to write off other people's freedom. Yes, that's how it works with nuclear weapons. It's deeply unfair: international bullies…

No, that is how nuclear weapons work when you are the only entity with nuclear weapons. There was a deeply scary and unstable period of a years post-WWII where this was the case. Having nukes only makes you god if no one else has nukes (and delivery methods).

Post by avgcorrection » Sun, Oct 09, 2022, 11:10 AM UTC

TEP_Kim_Il_Sung wrote: post #39

avgcorrection wrote: post #11

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What’s the objection here?

I am not saying people are dumb for using the word, just that it is impercise, and there are better words, such as Armageddon, cataclysm, and holocaust. (The latter being specifically destruction by fire)

Post by cpursley » Sun, Oct 09, 2022, 11:14 AM UTC

Silverback_VII wrote: post #16

chaosbolt wrote: post #2

>Because you invaded a country for no reason (like we did to Iraq), (except the one you invaded is at your borders and we put our guy at its head a couple years ago, and the one we invaded is half a planet from us), we will bring forth the apocalypse. Humans are crazy, seeing how we're speaking about a nuclear war now vs how people spoke about it in the 60s, it's like a mass psychosis, we don't care anymore, or maybe…

Isn't it the same frenzy with which people advocated for lockdowns, masks and destroyed some peoples careers because they didn't want to take the shot? What I find inspiring is that billionaires like Musk are suddenly making moves to defuse the situation.

Post by throwaway0x7E6 » Sun, Oct 09, 2022, 11:17 AM UTC

keewee7 wrote: post #56

chaosbolt wrote: post #2

>Because you invaded a country for no reason (like we did to Iraq), (except the one you invaded is at your borders and we put our guy at its head a couple years ago, and the one we invaded is half a planet from us), we will bring forth the apocalypse. Humans are crazy, seeing how we're speaking about a nuclear war now vs how people spoke about it in the 60s, it's like a mass psychosis, we don't care anymore, or maybe…

>and we put our guy at its head a couple years ago >we will bring forth the apocalypse Your comment is pushing Russian lies about the 2014 revolution in Ukraine and the only one bringing apocalypse closer is Russia. As a European with many Polish and Ukrainian friends and coworkers I'm happy that libertarian isolationist Americans only have a say on Hacker News and r/Conspiracy. The world would be a worse place if Am…

Post by avgcorrection » Sun, Oct 09, 2022, 11:17 AM UTC

marvin wrote: post #32

chaosbolt wrote: post #2

>Because you invaded a country for no reason (like we did to Iraq), (except the one you invaded is at your borders and we put our guy at its head a couple years ago, and the one we invaded is half a planet from us), we will bring forth the apocalypse. Humans are crazy, seeing how we're speaking about a nuclear war now vs how people spoke about it in the 60s, it's like a mass psychosis, we don't care anymore, or maybe…

I have no idea who you are quoting. But bowing down to nuclear threats increases the chance of nuclear war. This is because it will cause more nuclear threats in the future, and also strongly incentivize most non-nuclear countries to acquire nuclear weapons. We currently see NATO provide very stern back-channel warnings against nuclear weapon use to Russia. This is deterrence, which again decreases the chance of nucl…