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Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by christophilus »

kristopolous wrote: post #7

The problem of web content is the search and recommendation systems have no opinion on skill, effort, scholarship or accuracy. It's become disconnected so much that metrics of quality are seen as arbitrary, unrelated attributes. There is literally zero reward for hard work. It's actually more likely to hurt than help you because original scholarship or novel insights is definitionally more dissimilar to existing thin…

> There is literally zero reward for hard work.

There’s truth in what you say, but there are plenty of counter examples, too. The Smarter Every Day channel on YouTube, for example. That guy works his ass off, and that hard work is a big part of the reason he’s successful.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by helsinkiandrew »

NonNefarious wrote: post #63
iLoveOncall wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The ban seems legitimate since they use copyrighted poems. Every answer on StackOverflow is under Creative Commons SA-BY, and this guy follows exactly the terms of the license. I won't say that this Youtube channel isn't a parasite, but it's doing something 100% legally and the one you talk about is not.

The posted explanation doesn't mention copyright, though. It complains that the channel was delivering the content without "adding significant value," but meanwhile Google allows this asshole to perpetrate the same offense MILLIONS of times.

I haven't watched any of these videos, but to get away with using a copyright poem or other content as part of a video (to be fair use) the video would need to add something enough that they would stand if they didn't include the copyright content (artistic, discussion, criticism, humour etc) - I'm guessing in this case that YouTube has decided the poems are too large a part of the videos (Probably one or more of the poem copyright holders has lodged a copyright violation against some of them) and the content creator isn't added significant value to content owned by others.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by rowanG077 »

trh0awayman wrote: post #41
kristopolous wrote: post #7

The problem of web content is the search and recommendation systems have no opinion on skill, effort, scholarship or accuracy. It's become disconnected so much that metrics of quality are seen as arbitrary, unrelated attributes. There is literally zero reward for hard work. It's actually more likely to hurt than help you because original scholarship or novel insights is definitionally more dissimilar to existing thin…

Recommendation systems just mirror what the users watch - including their age - and the reality is that 99% of people have horrible taste in just about everything. They can't tell the difference between a great film and a terrible film - they walk away thinking "I enjoyed that".

That's pretty rich. What you meant to say is: "I don't agree with 99% of other people about what is good."

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by danirod »

mwidell wrote: post #33

I am somewhat surprised he only has 80k subscribers and 20M views. Not a lot considering the amount of videos. But he is probably making a nice side income from this. As a comparison I have done youtube "the honest way", and I posted around 200 videos and have 66k subscribers and 7M views.

Based in my own experience, the amount of videos uploaded at once will affect the initial number of views in a video, and the number of subscribers in the long term. Spamming the YouTube subscriptions feed with multiple videos at once is not something that many subscribers will receive good. At least in my experience as an uploader myself, I see that if I upload a video every couple days or weeks I get positive feedback, but if I upload multiple videos at once, maybe 3 or 4, I often receive negative feedback from my viewers.

Looking at his feed right now [1] I see a lot of videos uploaded 4 days ago, on 2022-05-20. I stopped counting rows after reaching 200 videos. I guess that not a lot of people would enjoy to have their feed blasted like this if it's going to cause disruption on keeping up with other subscriptions in the feed.

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/c/RoelVandePaar/videos

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by truly »

As an amateur YouTuber myself, this is disconcerting. A real video takes quite a lot of effort to do properly, especially if you try to aim for depth.

The guy is obviously smart, but not doing the world a favour. It is similar to what happened to text-based sites when AdSense showed up. I expect that at some point he will be banned, but still...

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by bigDinosaur »

jeroenhd wrote: post #79
trh0awayman wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Recommendation systems just mirror what the users watch - including their age - and the reality is that 99% of people have horrible taste in just about everything. They can't tell the difference between a great film and a terrible film - they walk away thinking "I enjoyed that".

> They can't tell the difference between a great film and a terrible film - they walk away thinking "I enjoyed that". If I walk away and think "I enjoyed that" then by all measures that was a great film. A great film will please most of not all of its target audience. When a film is shown in Cannes the target audience is cinema enthusiasts who seek deeper meaning and interesting new ways to use the medium. When a new…

I always think there are at least two levels of enjoyment.

'I enjoyed that' -> mapping to the enjoyment one gets from eating junk food. It's true, but it's a lack of complexity and engagement with what you're doing or eating. I'd actually include things like beautiful views in this too. It's often characterised by being okay with blatant flaws in plot logic or coherence or plausibility.

'I enjoyed that and it made me think/engage/reflect' -> mapping to the enjoyment one gets in complexity or well-constructed crafts which is often more gradual. In this case, liking something requires active engagement and thought.

The problem is that it's easy to substitute the latter with the former (which is easier). There are only so many beautiful views one can see before the brain yearns to learn what's behind them (curiousity and our brain's requirement for novelty?). I find it similar with films. I don't think this means everything has to be 'le film artistique'. But I also don't think it's healthy to only have the first experience.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by logotype »

Free storage space. I wonder how much it costs for Google to store all those 2M videos.

Here’s an idea. Encode your data/backups into a video (it’ll display as noise but that doesn’t matter). Store on YouTube for free instead of paying for terabytes on Google Drive.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by stackbutterflow »

jeroenhd wrote: post #79
trh0awayman wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Recommendation systems just mirror what the users watch - including their age - and the reality is that 99% of people have horrible taste in just about everything. They can't tell the difference between a great film and a terrible film - they walk away thinking "I enjoyed that".

> They can't tell the difference between a great film and a terrible film - they walk away thinking "I enjoyed that". If I walk away and think "I enjoyed that" then by all measures that was a great film. A great film will please most of not all of its target audience. When a film is shown in Cannes the target audience is cinema enthusiasts who seek deeper meaning and interesting new ways to use the medium. When a new…

It's important to be intellectually stimulated. Feeling good is not enough. The same way drugs trigger pleasure in our brain but we can't accept a society where the majority is constantly high and a minority runs the show.

The moment we give up on pushing people to challenge themselves is the moment our society declines.

Moreover democracies require an educated populace in order to survive.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by bayindirh »

formerly_proven wrote: post #78
bayindirh wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering the channels I follow, I can't see the correlation you mention, or we have a different definition for "production quality".

> Considering the channels I follow No way for that sample to be biased.

It can be completely biased. This is why my definition is probably different than yours in the first place.

On the other hand, your sample may be also biased, so it goes both ways.

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