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Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by elbigbad »

nixcraft wrote: post #34

Meanwhile, Google has removed RedFrost Motivation[1] (over 1.5 million subs and =>120 million views) from the YouTube Partner program stating reason "uses someone else's content without adding significant value for viewers". I kid you not. This is one of my favourite motivational channels with an orignal artistic take. According to post[1], they claim to use talented voice artists and musicians to produce our exclusi…

I am not someone who spends much time on YouTube at all, perhaps a few hours a year. But after looking at that channel it just seems to be some line drawn images with a poem read in the background. If it’s not autogenerated content, I bet it absolutely could be by someone on HN.

Comparatively, a suggested video came up below when I was checking out the red frost channel, and I ended up watching most of it. Some guy restoring a vintage mechanical watch from start to finish, which seemed to be (to me) high quality content. The person seemed to know a ton about watch movements and I learned a lot.

Not saying the red frost channel should be banned or anything, but imo it’s not too different than the guy auto posting stack overflow questions and answers, just replace stack overflow with poetry.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by bambax »

ThePhysicist wrote: post #12

It's only a matter of time before we'll see auto-generated content that uses AI-generated imagery, text and voice synthesis to produce content that appears vaguely intelligble enough to fool people to watch it. And as the downvote count is private information now it will be very hard to distinguish these videos from legitimate ones. Personally I think creative-commons licensed content is a double-edged sword. It seem…

> And surprisingly, Google seems unable or unwilling to filter this stuff out.

A little OT, but I find this very surprising too. In general I'm (still) a big fan of Google Search, which I think is amazing and miles above the competition.

But it's true that SO clones are everywhere, often in the first five results.

How can this be? How hard is it to detect that if the exact same content appeared first on SO, and then later on ten different sites that have zero content that's not already on SO, those are spam clones??

How is it even in Google's interest to upset users that way? Beats me.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by quetzthecoatl »

killingtime74 wrote: post #70
mike_hock wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only YT, this applies to almost everything. If a website is basic black-on-white HTML with little or no styling, it usually has high-quality content.

So you’re saying us Backend guys are geniuses huh :D

I know it's a joke, but it's not a front-end/back-end thing, but a form/content thing.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by mdoms »

nixcraft wrote: post #34

Meanwhile, Google has removed RedFrost Motivation[1] (over 1.5 million subs and =>120 million views) from the YouTube Partner program stating reason "uses someone else's content without adding significant value for viewers". I kid you not. This is one of my favourite motivational channels with an orignal artistic take. According to post[1], they claim to use talented voice artists and musicians to produce our exclusi…

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Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by londons_explore »

bambax wrote: post #72
ThePhysicist wrote: post #12

It's only a matter of time before we'll see auto-generated content that uses AI-generated imagery, text and voice synthesis to produce content that appears vaguely intelligble enough to fool people to watch it. And as the downvote count is private information now it will be very hard to distinguish these videos from legitimate ones. Personally I think creative-commons licensed content is a double-edged sword. It seem…

> And surprisingly, Google seems unable or unwilling to filter this stuff out. A little OT, but I find this very surprising too. In general I'm (still) a big fan of Google Search, which I think is amazing and miles above the competition. But it's true that SO clones are everywhere, often in the first five results. How can this be? How hard is it to detect that if the exact same content appeared first on SO, and then…

I suspect the problem is that Google can't fully crawl stackoverflow/github etc. There are plenty of pages which appear unindexed. I find it a lot when doing a google search for a code snippet and getting no results, only to find that exact piece of code/text is in a public github repo or bugreport.

Then, the clones copy those pages, and do manage to get indexed. Which in turn means that when you search for something, the clone appears to be first.

I think Google just needs to make their indexer 10x more aggressive, especially for big popular sites.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by formerly_proven »

bayindirh wrote: post #30
formerly_proven wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On average production quality seems to correlate inversely with accuracy and actual knowledge on Youtube. It kinda makes sense, most Youtube channels seem to be one-man-shows, if the production quality is good, the dude doing it is basically an A/V person at that point and you're looking at P(A/V person AND knowledgeable in X) vs. P(knowledgeable in X).

Considering the channels I follow, I can't see the correlation you mention, or we have a different definition for "production quality".

> Considering the channels I follow

No way for that sample to be biased.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by jeroenhd »

trh0awayman wrote: post #41
kristopolous wrote: post #7

The problem of web content is the search and recommendation systems have no opinion on skill, effort, scholarship or accuracy. It's become disconnected so much that metrics of quality are seen as arbitrary, unrelated attributes. There is literally zero reward for hard work. It's actually more likely to hurt than help you because original scholarship or novel insights is definitionally more dissimilar to existing thin…

Recommendation systems just mirror what the users watch - including their age - and the reality is that 99% of people have horrible taste in just about everything. They can't tell the difference between a great film and a terrible film - they walk away thinking "I enjoyed that".

> They can't tell the difference between a great film and a terrible film - they walk away thinking "I enjoyed that".

If I walk away and think "I enjoyed that" then by all measures that was a great film. A great film will please most of not all of its target audience. When a film is shown in Cannes the target audience is cinema enthusiasts who seek deeper meaning and interesting new ways to use the medium. When a new James Bond is shown, the target audience is anyone who enjoyed the trailer or the spy film genre enough to decide they want to see the movie.

Film critics like to be snobs about what is and isn't "real cinema", but that's not about superior taste. They may have a different taste, but that taste is no better or worse than anyone else's.

If 99% of people don't like what you like and therefore have horrible taste, maybe the problem isn't everyone else.

Re: A man who uploaded 2M videos to YouTube [video]

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Post by o_m »

mongol wrote: post #3

Why this guy has not been blocked from Youtube is beyond me. He spams so many search results.

Why would they? YouTube earns money on this as well. It's a bad idea long term, but the manager in charge probably focus on the bonuses they are receiving short term.
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