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Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by atonse »

john_cogs wrote: post #10
lekevicius wrote: post #5

Old logo was probably the cleverest rendering of a fox using very few lines. The new logo is a lot less smart, much more standard. Typography is also uninspiring: seems to be using Inter, which is designed to not have any character (pun not intended). Although, to be fair, old logo also had very basic typography.

The GitLab logo/mascot is actually a tanuki, a Japanese racoon dog. It symbolizes our values as a smart animal that works in a group to achieve a common goal.

Ah (totally serious comment, not intending to be insulting or flippant): I always thought it was just a cheeky copy of GitHub's Octocat, because that's how GitLab started too, an open source implementation of GitHub.

Didn't know about this animal, pretty cool.

Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by atonse »

Ohhhhhhhh it just dawned on me that when GitLab says "DevOps" – they aren't confusingly saying "terraform, etc" type DevOps (Developer/Operations tasks combined), which is actually what everyone else means.

I think they mean "the operations around running a development shop" ... like "Developer Operations."

Silly, but makes so much of their random language about DevOps actually make sense now.

Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by CollinEMac »

remram wrote: post #62
aendruk wrote: post #2

Old logo for comparison: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/gitlab-artwork/-/blob/9b07772f... Bonus: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/gitlab-artwork/-/blob/9b07772f...

I read the article and still don't understand what the new logo is. Did they just round the sides? Is it the start frame of that animation, with the ∞ symbol?

The outside edges are softer and the interior lines are different. The new one has less lines overall and has more of the deep red-orange color.

Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by bogomipz »

john_cogs wrote: post #10
lekevicius wrote: post #5

Old logo was probably the cleverest rendering of a fox using very few lines. The new logo is a lot less smart, much more standard. Typography is also uninspiring: seems to be using Inter, which is designed to not have any character (pun not intended). Although, to be fair, old logo also had very basic typography.

The GitLab logo/mascot is actually a tanuki, a Japanese racoon dog. It symbolizes our values as a smart animal that works in a group to achieve a common goal.

I believe the Tanuki are much more known in the symbolic sense as mischevious and shapeshifting though no?[1] At least in Japan, where they are native to. There always seems to be one outside of an Izakaya with a flask of sake.[2]

[1] https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/the-tanuki-japan-s-tri...

[2] https://www.alamy.com/ceramic-statues-of-two-bake-danuki-tan...

Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by geepdb »

lbotos wrote: post #73
i_like_waiting wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am in charge of reporting, business intelligence and DE. We use VCS to have all our SQL transformations stored there. Like that all the business users interested can see whats happening in background and we have things version controlled. For rest of the features we don't have use case and our "proper IT" is using github instead, but there you have to pay per seat in org. as I heard

If the business users never need to write, just read, then you could set the projects to public (if your instance is in a private network) and then people can have vis, and you don't need seats for those who aren't writing . I think both products support this as an option.

We ran into the same issue using dbt. Unfortunately it is just not cost-effective to pay for full GitLab licenses for BI users that occasionally tweak SQL queries and don’t leverage any other GitLab features.

Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by lekevicius »

FooBarWidget wrote: post #63
lekevicius wrote: post #5

Old logo was probably the cleverest rendering of a fox using very few lines. The new logo is a lot less smart, much more standard. Typography is also uninspiring: seems to be using Inter, which is designed to not have any character (pun not intended). Although, to be fair, old logo also had very basic typography.

If Inter doesn't have character, then which font has character? How does one pick a font that has character?

Any font that doesn't try to be neutral. Consider Cooper Black, or Larken, or even the horrible Lobster. Even with sans-serifs you can be more expressive, for instance Px Grotesk.

Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by kodah »

c17r wrote: post #77
andrewstuart2 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're mistaken. DevOps is a very specific team allowed to touch the Jenkins box, and is the old branding for what is now SRE which are both just rebranded names for Systems Administration, but with Cloud certifications instead of Cisco and Dell. I kid. But this is just as much the meme I've encountered as Agile. Some successful company releases a book about something they do that's fundamentally different, a…

SRE jokingly stands for "SysAdmin, Really Expensive"

Real SREs are great. Who wouldn't want a Systems Engineer that codes and can interrogate kernel issues or a Software Engineer capable of writing their own compiler running your operations?

Most companies, even if they hire these people, don't know how to use or listen to them though. What usually happens is they get lumped in with a bunch of Application Operations folks and it sours the idea entirely.

Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by freddiecoleman »

abofh wrote: post #35
nicoburns wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It means that a big part Gitlab's offering is now things like CI, whereas originally it was just code hosting.

Which is unfortunate, because outside of gitlab.com, I've found gitlabs CI offering to be more unpleasant than any of the competition in terms of "DevOps" implementation, scalability and automation.

I'm amazed that more people aren't vocal about this. When I was using Gitlab (last year) the pipelines seemed unnecessarily complicated with knowledge of the underlying implementation details sometimes being required to get anything done. Almost every week we would hit some edge case to be presented with a several year old thread on Gitlab where loads of other people have the same problem and it hasn't been addressed yet.

Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by postalrat »

lekevicius wrote: post #5

Old logo was probably the cleverest rendering of a fox using very few lines. The new logo is a lot less smart, much more standard. Typography is also uninspiring: seems to be using Inter, which is designed to not have any character (pun not intended). Although, to be fair, old logo also had very basic typography.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Gitlab_l...

I hope that's the old logo you are talking about. Much smarter than these new ones.

Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by xdennis »

lucideer wrote: post #26
john_cogs wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The GitLab logo/mascot is actually a tanuki, a Japanese racoon dog. It symbolizes our values as a smart animal that works in a group to achieve a common goal.

If the intent of the redesign was to make this more apparent, it also failed in that goal. Old and new both look like a fox. Old(er) tanuki-like logo for comparison https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/gitlab-artwork/-/blob/9b07772f...

Not quite. The new one also looks like an evil owl. The old one didn't have a beak.
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