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Hidden Networks in TP-Link Routers

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Re: Hidden Networks in TP-Link Routers

#81

Buy routers that can work with Openwrt, period. TP-Link actually has quite a few(not the newest models though, but the not-newest-model should work for 95% of the customers) that runs openwrt well. All my routers are running non-vendor firmware(e.g. openwrt) for the last 15 years, never had any troubles.

Sadly OpenWRT doesn’t support band steering.

Re: Hidden Networks in TP-Link Routers

#82

I had a related problem with their PowerLine TPA-4220 devices yesterday. It turns out there's a DHCP server on it that you can't turn off! It's supposed to be smart and know when there's another DHCP server on the network, but it appears that this sometimes doesn't work. So I found that my laptop sometimes ends up configured on the wrong subnet, which of course kills the internet connection. The thing is, the web int…

This feature is stupid. I never buy TP-link products because I can't believe people who ship like this. ref: https://community.tp-link.com/en/home/forum/topic/160293

Re: Hidden Networks in TP-Link Routers

#83
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There was more to the debacle, for example, putting ads for their other products in the controller UI.

Given their inexpensive pricing, as long as they only do that in their admin interface and don’t mess with my packets, it’s not worth throwing the baby out with the bath water in my book… especially since there are no real competitors offering good hardware with nice UI.

Does Ubiquity use a standard ad network architecture that allows code from unknown third parties to run within your network?

Re: Hidden Networks in TP-Link Routers

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> But I am wondering why the author does not value his personal time. Maybe, because it is fun reverse engineering stuff?

I agree. I like tinkering myself. But then why mention avoiding spending a hundred dollars for a new device, but spending a couple of hours as if those hours are worth less than said amount of money.

Should customers of a product be forced to either spend 100$ for a new product and generate more ewaste, or tinker with their device leaving it in an unsupported perhaps even out of warranty state?

Maybe some people are happy with either option, but it sure is unethical to force that choice, especially when all the effort it could have taken from the manufacturer was to add a boolean flag.

I'd complain too, not everyone is in the same situation, and this is dodgy behavior anyway regardless of me liking the workarounds or not, simply having to workaround is bad enough in principle.

Re: Hidden Networks in TP-Link Routers

#85

So after the Ubiquiti debacle I went out and looked for a similar combination (solid hardware + not-too-annoying software). After briefly considering Mikrotik (which has issues with ac (wifi 5) and no ax (wifi 6) support) I settled on Grandstream for now. They don't just make phones but a small set of fairly nicely featured wifi APs for ok prices. Hardware seems solid, Software not annoying. I've bought a few pieces…

Grandstream is hot garbage. Stay faaaaar away from their products.

-Someone who suffered through years of their software / support horror show.

Re: Hidden Networks in TP-Link Routers

#86
My solution is to buy a reliable WiFi Access Point and plug that into the router, and just disable the router’s WiFi. That way I can choose a router for the features I need (or use a small PC if I wanted to do something tricky or needed high performance). I think that would fix the problem with the TP-Link (albeit costing far more).

I use Unifi UAP-AC-LR for the AP, because they are easy to set up from an Android phone, are not expensive, are not flakey, can be mounted in a location to optimise WiFi reception (powered from Ethernet cable by included DC injector), can be easily moved to new ISP or house, don’t require a controller, and they just keep working. Ubiquiti have made some dick moves, but their AP and point-to-point hardware has been solidly reliable and relatively simple to configure.

Re: Hidden Networks in TP-Link Routers

#87
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Tried it, but Wifi speed on the Archer C7 was significantly reduced.

OpenWrt probably has to do everything through the CPU. Not hardware accelerated like in the stock firmware.

Usually a lack of hardware acceleration support is a problem on the wired side, where a lot of consumer routers rely on NAT offload in the Ethernet switch, without which a cheap MIPS core cannot offer good WAN to LAN throughput. WiFi NICs are quite self-contained these days with their own complicated firmware, to the extent that it is often hard to move enough of the processing back to the CPU even when you want to (such as to do smarter airtime scheduling than the proprietary firmware that runs on the NIC).

Re: Hidden Networks in TP-Link Routers

#88
post #81

Buy routers that can work with Openwrt, period. TP-Link actually has quite a few(not the newest models though, but the not-newest-model should work for 95% of the customers) that runs openwrt well. All my routers are running non-vendor firmware(e.g. openwrt) for the last 15 years, never had any troubles.

Sadly OpenWRT doesn’t support band steering.

You can install DAWN and get band-steering and controlled migration between multiple APs.

Re: Hidden Networks in TP-Link Routers

#89
post #81

Buy routers that can work with Openwrt, period. TP-Link actually has quite a few(not the newest models though, but the not-newest-model should work for 95% of the customers) that runs openwrt well. All my routers are running non-vendor firmware(e.g. openwrt) for the last 15 years, never had any troubles.

Sadly OpenWRT doesn’t support band steering.

https://forum.openwrt.org/t/dawn-band-steering/71767

Re: Hidden Networks in TP-Link Routers

#90

I had a related problem with their PowerLine TPA-4220 devices yesterday. It turns out there's a DHCP server on it that you can't turn off! It's supposed to be smart and know when there's another DHCP server on the network, but it appears that this sometimes doesn't work. So I found that my laptop sometimes ends up configured on the wrong subnet, which of course kills the internet connection. The thing is, the web int…

My TP Link wifi router loses the ability to list connected clients if you switch it to access point mode.

I discovered that this problem affects many models and people have been posting about it in the tp link forums for many years and have only received annoying "we'll look into it" customer service responses.

I will never buy a router I can't put openwrt on again.

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