On the other hand Trump's network might be coopted to contribute to mastodon's development, since they have apparently billions in funding. And it would be very ironic if this ends up boosting the decentralized web.
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#82> As far as personal feelings are concerned, of course we would prefer if people so antithetical to our values did not use and benefit from our labour And sensible people would prefer that license violations would be published and pursued fairly, and personal feelings kept personal, rather than creating a soft list of people and perspectives whose online/computing freedom is less important than others.
Is there an example of a software with a license with more overt political views being directly stated in the agreement ? I'm NOT saying that it's wrong to have personal views, or to make a statement about what Mastodon feels about Trump's Truth Social, but I am curious if there is software in wide-use with something like "No anti-vaxxers". So far the most ideology-enforcing licenses I know are mainly about the battl…
Well, in the licence, Apple wouldn't let me use iTunes to build nukes, so that was rude.
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#83Do we really have to give this guy the #1 Hacker News story? He was fading into the background so nicely.
No he is not fading into the background. He is still currently trying to overthrow the US government. He is attempting to delegitimize elections over the entire country. He is an evil man that will stop at nothing to regain power.
Man, you know how this sound like the party line against Trotsky during Stalin's time? Please, let's keep our opposition to trump decent, lest we look like ridiculous pearl clutchers
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
But for all that superficial posturing, he accomplished very little of his agenda and generally ended up trying to play ball anyway. The anti-establishment game lasted until he entered the white House. His primary accomplishment was building a base of angry people.
I don't think the primary concern of his voter base was advancing their political agenda. I believe the anger was the whole point, and they got it by the truck loads. There was no reason to believe that they would get what they wanted policy-wise from a Democrat or from a different Republican candidate. The next best thing is to make all of the bad people angry, which they did get.
Did they? One would assume if the "bad people" (the establishment, 'The Swamp') got so angry, there might be change in some way.
If any of the criticism had gone beyond the level of "crooked Hillary" then I could buy this theory of Trump as expose. But it never did.
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#85One of Trump's biggest advantages is his enemies drastically over-react to things and end up looking stupid. GPL violations are a serious business and Mastodon is well within their rights to ask for the code to be released. But the business hasn't even opened yet and they're already waving permanent revocation around. This sort of aggression in enforcing the GPL may actually be unprecedented.
I agree with you. The following is my opinion of what happened, not an endorsement. Trump's role in our history was primarily a f-you to the established players in both parties. He won because he made all the right people mad. And the more his enemies drastically over-react the more powerful he becomes.
As painfully admitted by the comments here, it is virtually impossible for them to stop talking about Donald J. Trump and they have to even resort to censoring themselves as if he never existed.
So it just means that Donald J. Trump is in their minds 'rent-free'; forever.
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#86The instance in question was taken down almost as soon as it was discovered. And still the headlines keep coming. That's how strong the Trump name is.
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
That sounds like a personal feeling.
It's a personal feeling about the purpose of the license, not about the people who are using the license.
I read it as being personal at first but on second read interpreted the “antithetical” comment to reference the issue that they were breaking the license and limiting the users freedom.
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#88Antithetical to your values why, because it’s supposedly going to be a free speech website (I’ll believe it when I see it), as opposed to the tightly moderated fediverse instances? Or is it just the guy? Or something else? Anyway, it hasn’t launched yet, so why can’t this post wait until then?
> why can’t this post wait until then? The group announcing signing a merger agreement with a now-two-billion-dollar SPAC [1] is the likely spark. It's an announcement of a change in economic magnitude. That can make previously-ignorable mistakes meaningful to pursue. [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/21/trump-linked-spac-shares-soa...
I understand. But can this be fought in court as long as the website doesn’t even exist?
There is no indication that the website will infringe on this licence yet… it hasn’t launched yet!
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Gab was pretty high profile too, no?
As far as I know, Gab never violated AGPL, and I think a social media site backed by Trump will be a much bigger deal.
Mastodon's original developer sent a cease and desist letter to Gab on October 21 for not publishing the version of their codebase that is currently in production.[1] Gab updated their repo in one hour, and later shared the entire code tree instead of just a password protected archive file.[2]
It's really not that difficult to comply with AGPLv3. Truth Social should simply release the code and keep the repo up to date.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
> why can’t this post wait until then? The group announcing signing a merger agreement with a now-two-billion-dollar SPAC [1] is the likely spark. It's an announcement of a change in economic magnitude. That can make previously-ignorable mistakes meaningful to pursue. [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/21/trump-linked-spac-shares-soa...
I understand. But can this be fought in court as long as the website doesn’t even exist? There is no indication that the website will infringe on this licence yet… it hasn’t launched yet!
> can this be fought in court as long as the website doesn’t even exist?
The website did exist. Users created accounts and demanded a copy of the source. They were refused, and so the license was infringed. Mastodon isn't threatening legal action. They're asking for that refusal to be reversed, thereby curing the infringement.