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Re: Trump’s new social media platform found using Mastodon code

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Post by Consultant32452 »

roenxi wrote: post #21

One of Trump's biggest advantages is his enemies drastically over-react to things and end up looking stupid. GPL violations are a serious business and Mastodon is well within their rights to ask for the code to be released. But the business hasn't even opened yet and they're already waving permanent revocation around. This sort of aggression in enforcing the GPL may actually be unprecedented.

I agree with you. The following is my opinion of what happened, not an endorsement.

Trump's role in our history was primarily a f-you to the established players in both parties. He won because he made all the right people mad. And the more his enemies drastically over-react the more powerful he becomes.

Re: Trump’s new social media platform found using Mastodon code

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Post by spiderfarmer »

herbst wrote: post #31
rogual wrote: post #10

Do we really have to give this guy the #1 Hacker News story? He was fading into the background so nicely.

Isn't it still the same America that voted for him not to long ago? Censoring reality never was good idea

Amplifying nonsense was never a good idea either.

Re: Trump’s new social media platform found using Mastodon code

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Post by furyg3 »

jrootabega wrote: post #30

> As far as personal feelings are concerned, of course we would prefer if people so antithetical to our values did not use and benefit from our labour And sensible people would prefer that license violations would be published and pursued fairly, and personal feelings kept personal, rather than creating a soft list of people and perspectives whose online/computing freedom is less important than others.

Just as Truth Social can use Mastodon's source code to spread lies and hate as long as they comply with the license, so can Mastodon use their own blog to disprove of Truth Social... as long as they enforce the license.

Their statement does not detract from their action.

Re: Trump’s new social media platform found using Mastodon code

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Post by krapp »

pibechorro wrote: post #16
rogual wrote: post #10

Do we really have to give this guy the #1 Hacker News story? He was fading into the background so nicely.

You mean the person who was the sitting president of the united states, who got deplatformed in unison by big tech social media, and is now fighting against censorship by using tech? Yeah, that is not relevant at all to hackernews /s

I like how everyone always says "sitting President of the united states" when they mention Trump's deplatforming, as if to imply that being a sitting President gives Trump greater legal right to a social media account, or that deplatforming Trump was in some way an coup or overthrow of Trump's position as President, thus reinforcing the narrative of social media being an organized supranational conspiracy that poses a threat to national sovereignty itself.

It's these consistent, subtle details that make the Trumpist propaganda so effective. The other side needs to start taking notes.

Re: Trump’s new social media platform found using Mastodon code

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Post by CalChris »

h2odragon wrote: post #14

This (possible but technically not yet a) license violation has gotten more press for OSS licenses and enforcement than anything before, I think. Certainly more press than the Vizio thing, which will actually impact a lot more people if anything comes of it.

TiVo

Linksys

Most of Oracle's business model.

Re: Trump’s new social media platform found using Mastodon code

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Post by usui »

jrootabega wrote: post #30

> As far as personal feelings are concerned, of course we would prefer if people so antithetical to our values did not use and benefit from our labour And sensible people would prefer that license violations would be published and pursued fairly, and personal feelings kept personal, rather than creating a soft list of people and perspectives whose online/computing freedom is less important than others.

Is there an example of a software with a license with more overt political views being directly stated in the agreement ? I'm NOT saying that it's wrong to have personal views, or to make a statement about what Mastodon feels about Trump's Truth Social, but I am curious if there is software in wide-use with something like "No anti-vaxxers". So far the most ideology-enforcing licenses I know are mainly about the battle for Free Software or code availability. Just imagine if there was a license demanding a certain way to feel politically (other than open-source political views).

Re: Trump’s new social media platform found using Mastodon code

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Post by dmm »

d_theorist wrote: post #32

Are the quoted terms actually incorrect or in violation of the license? >all source code ... are owned or controlled by us or licensed to us, and are protected by copyright and trademark laws That's correct isn't it? The mastodon code would be licensed to them under the AGPL. So I am not sure this should be a source of "worry" in and of itself. The potential issue appears to be that they have modified the mastodon co…

Even if you don't modify the sources you have to provide them to anyone who uses the service.

Re: Trump’s new social media platform found using Mastodon code

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Post by gameswithgo »

roenxi wrote: post #21

One of Trump's biggest advantages is his enemies drastically over-react to things and end up looking stupid. GPL violations are a serious business and Mastodon is well within their rights to ask for the code to be released. But the business hasn't even opened yet and they're already waving permanent revocation around. This sort of aggression in enforcing the GPL may actually be unprecedented.

Yeah I remember all those lectures about over reaction and we ended up with an insurrection and an entire half of our country convinced an election was stolen.

Re: Trump’s new social media platform found using Mastodon code

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Post by the-dude »

dmm wrote: post #47
d_theorist wrote: post #32

Are the quoted terms actually incorrect or in violation of the license? >all source code ... are owned or controlled by us or licensed to us, and are protected by copyright and trademark laws That's correct isn't it? The mastodon code would be licensed to them under the AGPL. So I am not sure this should be a source of "worry" in and of itself. The potential issue appears to be that they have modified the mastodon co…

Even if you don't modify the sources you have to provide them to anyone who uses the service.

There is no service.

Re: Trump’s new social media platform found using Mastodon code

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Post by nkozyra »

roenxi wrote: post #21

One of Trump's biggest advantages is his enemies drastically over-react to things and end up looking stupid. GPL violations are a serious business and Mastodon is well within their rights to ask for the code to be released. But the business hasn't even opened yet and they're already waving permanent revocation around. This sort of aggression in enforcing the GPL may actually be unprecedented.

Where's the "advantage" in this instance?
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